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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-3 13:28 | 显示全部楼层
Hi Ray,

It's hard to tell where this will top out. My opinion is that we are still heading higher in the extended fifth waves. It's also possible that some sort of complex correction is playing out. I guess we won't know until it's over. I don't think that the risk:reward is in our favor of being long anymore, so I'm out of my position and sitting on the sidelines until the large wave four correction is complete.

I've got two possible counts for the long term patterns. The first is that a large triangle is forming. The second is that we are in wave three of a bull sequence from way back in 2000/2001.

If a triangle is forming, then we need a small correction and one more small rally to complete wave 'c' of larger wave 'B.'

What do you all think? Happy Trading.Attached Images
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-3 13:29 | 显示全部楼层
USDCAD correction is testing our patience.
At the moment it looks like a perfect A-B-C corrective wave. Wave 4 of C formed a triangle that should resolved anytime soon, within 1hr, or so.
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Eurusd
Triangle is building up, at the moment almost ready to burst. Should go up by around 50 pips.
Mike
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There are other things I would like to move on and show you .

( See your overlapping wave chart below) -

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-3 13:30 | 显示全部楼层
Here is a visual look at how
Wave 4 is not to overlap Wave 1 , Ever....!
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The 3 chart diagrams below are illustrating that :

Wave 1 can be the longest wave,
or,
Wave 3 can be the longest wave,
or ,
Wave 5 can be the longest wave,

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- but never a overlap must occur ........... !

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-3 13:31 | 显示全部楼层
GBP/CHF Heading Lower Again
Hey everybody,

It looks like wave four of the decline that began back in July 2007 is complete and that price is headed lower once again. The wave four correction was a double three.

Wave 1 will equal wave 5 when price gets to 2.0635. Not only was wave four a double three, but it also formed a box formation (or a channel). Once price breaks out of a box, a good target is usually the width of the box. I drew my box lines at 2.1843 for the high and 2.1233 for the low. Therefore, the box is 610 points wide and has a target down at 2.0623. That is only a small 12 point difference from where wave 1 would equal wave 5 at 2.0635.

Another thing to note: Price is just about to break through the May 2003 low of 2.0925. There may be some stops to blast through on the other side of that number, so we could see the decline accelerate as price pushes lower.

Happy Trading.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-3 13:32 | 显示全部楼层
GBP/CHF Again
Here's a monthly chart of GBP/CHF. The pattern seems fairly clear and shows that there is huge downside potential...After a retracement that is.

First off, it's possible that a leading diagonal was formed as wave one. According to Frost and Prechter, it is rare for leading diagonals in wave one positions, but it does happen. Furthermore, they found cases where the structure could be either 3-3-3-3-3 or 5-3-5-3-5. Looking at the GBP/CHF, it may be the 3-3-3-3-3.

Second, wave (i) of (3) is nearing completion. I have an approximate end for wave (i) at ~2.0635. Wave two usually retraces to about the 50.0% level of wave one. Therefore, an approximate retracement level is going to be near the ~2.2800 area. Incidentally, that is right where the former support line (Blue Line) extends to. I'm a big believer in old support being retested as new resistance and vice versa. So it seems that there is a pretty good chance that we could see price head back up to that level.

Any thoughts?
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 17:03 | 显示全部楼层
EURUSD Daily
Dear traders

Do you think that pair will constract the 5th wave.

Rta
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 17:09 | 显示全部楼层
Eur/Cad
I think Eur/Cad is resolving into a triangle with wave E complete or nearing completion.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 17:11 | 显示全部楼层
I do not calculate thrusts from triangles. My overriding concern always is form but if I am going to calculate an objective, I use extensions of wave 1 from 2. So, the objectives for the EURUSD are anywhere from 1.5129-1.5447. These are 161.8 to 261.8 extensions. Again, form is most important though. In this instance, we still need a series of 4th and 5th waves before the rally is complete...so maybe the 261.8 extensions near 1.55 will be hit.Attached Images

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 17:18 | 显示全部楼层
Heya market,
Feedback welcome. This is labeled incorrectly if 4 can't retrace into 1. Should it be broken into an a b c wave? Wave C (not marked) appears to be 3 waves? yet my first A wave is 5? Thanks.

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 17:34 | 显示全部楼层
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Welcome to CyclePro - Your web resource for Technical, Esoteric Analysis, and Market Forecast Commentary.

IntroductionThe current U.S. stock market appears to be following a similar path as was previously witnessed by U.S. investors in 1929 and 1987, and more recently by investors in the Japan Nikkei in 1990, Hong Kong in 1997, and many others. These were the most famous world stock market "crashes" of the century. We have already witnessed crashes in internet and high-tech industries during 2000, will this year also be added to this prestigious list for a "Crash" in the United States? Will the global economy crash too?
I would rather be prepared and wrong
than to be unprepared but right!

Current Commentary -- Where Are We Now?(Monday April 28, 2008 PM): I came across the data for this chart from the website for U.S. Office of Federal Housing Enterprice Oversight. It shows the current total debt outstanding for U.S. residential mortgages from 1990 through 2007. We are currently right at $12 trillion. This chartline represents the aggregate growth in residences (new homes, condos, etc) combined with home price appreciation, as reflected in total mortgage debt.

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What struck me as particularly impressive is when combining my outlook from last night's update, the aggregate amount of lost home value appears to be a rather staggering sum. For example, let's assume a conservative home price recession that sets prices back to roughly what they were in 2003. The chart above suggest the loss on mortgage debt levels to be $12 - 7.8 = $3.2 trillion. But what I thought was stunning was if my forecast of a pice pullback to 2000 prices materializes, then the loss becomes $12 - 5.5 = $6.5 trillion. Never mind that my chart from last night suggested a worst case scenario might drop prices by perhaps 50%, the chart above, therefore suggests mortgage debt losses of over $8 trillion. Let's ponder the conservative scenario for a moment -- if national home prices drop by -20% then the total value of mortgage debt loses -$3.2 trillion. This means, on aggregate, US mortgage holders may be underwater by this same $3.2 trillion. Because not only have home prices dropped by -20%, but there were many more new homes added to the market. If there was ever a big concern over the number of home buyers walking away from their mortgages, then I think -$3.2 trillion suggests a lot are likely to be walking. You can do the math if/when a more serious downturn plays out, such as a drop of -30%, -40%, or perhaps as much as -50%, which would mean a drop in aggregate residential home values by over $8 trillion. To put this sum into perspective, the entire US GDP for one full year is $11 trillion, and the global GDP for one year is about $50 trillion. There are about 40 million homes in the U.S. with outstanding mortgages. 10 million of those have adjustable rates (ARM's). The conservative loss of -$3.2 trillion means an average loss of $80,000 per mortgage, and the worst case loss of -$8 trillion suggests a per mortgage loss value of $200,000. Since mortgages are contracts between a lender and buyer, then with the buyer walking, the lender is stuck with the loss. This means the banks and Fannie Mae are going to get nailed. And now that the Federal Reserve is playing the role of pawn shop to commercial banks is buying mortgage backed securities (MBS) they too are vulnerable to big losses. Fannie Mae is unlikely to be able to withstand losses this huge... FDIC will be overwhelmed if any significant banks fail. That means U.S taxpayers will end up bailing out everyone, including Fannie Mae... and also the U.S. Federal Reserve. These numbers are simply depressing. (Sunday April 27, 2008 PM): The Continuing Saga of the Rump Towers
Before anyone starts making accusations of doctoring up this photo, all you have to do is drive by The Trump Towers sales office on Collins Avenue in Sunny Isles Beach, Florida to see this is an authentic, albeit humorous, sign. This time last year, the 3 Trump Towers buildings were completely sold out. In fact, as of Deember, 2005 Tower I and Tower II were completely sold out and Tower III was reported to be 99% sold. A typical 2 bedroom unit on a low floor was supposed fetch $1.57 million. Tower I required financing of $150.5 million in 2005 and Towers II and III recieved financing of $345 million in April, 2006. This averages out to a financing cost of $610,000 per unit. My how things can change in only 1 years time. The updated Miami-Dade county tax records shows that only 36 units have been sold so far (out of the available 271 in Tower I). Tower II should get its Certificate of Occupancy this summer and Tower III perhaps this fall. By comparison, further up the street the Trump Palace opened in spring 2006 selling 186 units (out of 278 total) in less than 6 months. The next Trump project is the 391 unit Trump Royale which should already be available for occupancy, but there no tax sales recorded yet with Miami-Dade county. I am continuing to monitor these projects to use as a proxy for the rest of the S. Florida luxury highrise condo market. US Single-Family Homes The following chart will not be welcome news for recent home buyers, and particularly sour for those close to or already underwater with their mortgages. This is the post-WWII average price for S. Florida homes clearly showing the boom-bust cycles over the duration. I have added the red forecast line which I expect to play out over the next dozen years or so. It is clear that year 2000 was the breakaway moment -- when Alan Greenspan lowered interest rates to bail out the tech stock investors after the Nasdaq market crashed. These super-low interest rates fueled the hot housing market creating an anomoly that is extremely clear by this chart. Just reverting back to the mean (center trend line) will be extremely painful. But just like the overstretched rubber band chart line into year 2000, the snap-back is likely to fall below the lower trend line.

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The bulk of this downturn should occupy the entire 4 years of the next presidential term, making a re-election for their 2nd term highly unlikely. Fed intervention is unlikely to stop the housing bear market, except perhaps to prolong the pain by slowing it down and making it last for many more years that it otherwise should. Please note the previous 2 housing price bubble downturns (peaks in 1979 and 1989) fell quicker than the rise. Home Buyers Looking for Bargains The chart above should be good news for home buyers sitting on the sidelines waiting for bargains. Other than having to wait 4 years to get a great deal, buyers need to keep ther powder dry anticipating the orgy of great opportunities for both home ownership a well as investment. Different regional markets may experience slightly different bust timings, but this chart should be fairly consistent for not only the S. Florida markets but also as a national average. For those that have been monitoring my previous charts on DJIA/Gold ratio and Gold/Silver ratio should note that the time to be selling long-term gold & silver holdings may be very close to the time when the housing market may be reaching its nadir. The 2012-2018 range is looking more and more like the transition period of the next big paradigm shift in investment opportunities. If things play out as I expect, then this timeframe is when the next great US stock market bull market should begin. (Sunday March 30, 2008 PM): Before I get to tonights feature article, I wanted to clarify a few things from my previous post concerning JP Morgan, who now control nearly a $100 trillion derivative portfolio. While a trillion is truely a very large number, please keep in mind that World notional value of all derivatives is estimated to be $516 trillion. Now 1/5th of all world derivatives is under the control of just one entity, JP Morgan. That alone should send shivers up your financial spine for two important reasons: One is the fact that so much risk is concentrated with the trading expertise of just one firm. Look at what happened when geniuses managed Long-Term Capital Management or the super-quants at Bear Stearns. Second, since our Federal Reserve has made it clear that it intends to intervene and support major banks & financial centers, JP Morgan and their $100 trillion is a ticking timebomb that US taxpayers should not be unnecessarily exposed to. When I said that "experts" claim that 2% of any derivative trading portfolio notional value is truely at risk of loss, what they mean is that 2% is at risk during normal market volatility. If our current environment was low volatility and pretty much an all around "normal" market, then I would be only somewhat concerned. But perhaps the most important variable fed into derivative pricing models (such as Black-Scholes, etc) is volatility. Our current environment is anything but normal, volatility is well above normal. This means to me that the 2% loss figure is way understated. But does this really matter? I mean if you shoot and kill someone with a 357 magnum pistol, does then stabbing them with a knife make them any more dead? If JP Morgan was already over-leveraged such that a "normal volatility environment" loss of their $84 trillion portfolio meant they could wipe out their entire assets of $1.24 trillion ($84T x 2% = $1.68T), then how much more damage will an extra $13.4 trillion do? ($97T x 2% = $1.94T) Hey, in finance, someone ends up having to pay for the loss. If a 2% event occurs, take $1.94T minus JPM assets of $1.24T and the Fed ends up forking over $700 billion! That is bad... but what if market volatility increases such that a 2.5% loss occurs, or even a 3% loss? In a 3% scenario the Fed's ante is $1.67 trillion. Now that is really bad... but the worst is that the derivative portfolio is still not dead yet... derivatives are not dead until the contracts maturity date. A 2%-3% loss could occur on the short-term securities, but the longer-term securities that have not expired yet, still have potent toxic venom as they near maturity -- meaning that additional losses are still possible. If you think you have a good grasp of the situation now, there is still more to contemplate. JP Morgan does not operate in a financial vacuum... there are thousands of counterparties that regularly trade derivative products with JPM. There are many banks and financial centers that trade derivative products similar to JP Morgan's. If JPM goes belly up, each of these partys are also vulnerable and it can cascade all the way down the financial food chain. The Fed will have to throw in the towel somewhere... meanwhile, US taxpayers (and JPM employees) will suffer the consequences. South Florida Real Estate - Trump Towers Sunny Isles Beach, Florida is the poster child for the real estate bubble in S. Florida. On a recent visit I decided to do a little investigation into the highrise condo market there. I could have picked from a dozen beachfront highrise projects currently under construction, but I chose one of the Trump projects, as in Donald Trump. Mr. Trump did not personally build these projects, he found investor/developers to do it and take the risk. But he did lend his name to the projects, and that means he still has a vested interest in making sure the projects are successful. The project I have focused on are the three Trump Towers I, II, and III located at 16001, 15901, 15811 Collins Avenue, respectively. Each building has the same floor plan and consist of 271 luxury units per 45 story building. A total of 813 residential units in this project. While the buildings were under construction, the buzz around the real estate biz was that the 1st building had to be 2/3 sold before breaking ground on the 2nd building, and likewise for the 3rd building. The photo shows that all three buildings were under construction as of spring 2007. So apparently there was a lot of interest in these properties to give the go-ahead to break ground on all three towers. The updated photos show that building I is complete enough that owners have begun moving in. The building is essentially already functional. Even the valet boys are operating 24/7. Building II has a completed shell exterior, but the insides still need final polish. Building III remains under full construction. Knowing that the housing market is in current chaos and on the brink of a significant downturn, albeit collapse, I decided to check the tax records of the sales & taxes for this project. According to Miami-Dade County tax records, as of 3/28/08, only 19 units have been sold! You read that correctly! Out of the 271 units in Trump Towers I, only 19 have been sold to individuals or investors that have actually put down the cash (or mortgage) for these units. Four units are apparently earmarked for Mr. Trump. The remaining 248 are "owned" by the developers headed up by Dezer Development and The Related Group of Florida (using the names TRG Sunny Isles V Ltd, TRG Sunny Isles VI Ltd, and TRG Sunny Isles VII Ltd for buildings 1, 2, and 3, respectively. Closings were slated to begin in December, 2007. But so far all of the buyers completed their contracts in January or February, 2008. I did not see that any new buyers showed up in March, but perhaps the County is slow in updating the records, or perhaps I am merely jumping the gun. One of the 19 buyers bought a 3 bedroom, 3.5 bath, 2950 ft2 unit for $1.1M. The same unit# is already listed as a re-sale on Zillow.com for $1.3M. With almost 800 similar Trump units available or soon to be available from motivated developers, wanna bet this owner ends up selling for a lot less than their original purchase price? More from South Florida Real Estate An interesting twist is the Miami-Dade condo supply (MLS listings). Condos priced under $250k increased 25% in just one month from January, 2008 to February, 2008. These lower-priced condos account for 41% of all available condo inventory in the area. But for condos priced over $1M inventory actually decreased. If financing is an issue, then those buyers with the big cash may be still buying, and doing it without financing. But it may also be possible that these higher-priced units were simply taken off the market to await for better prices or to rent them out... or, may be reclassified, such as bank foreclosure. Another consideration is that a lot of luxury unit construction is going on right now (like the Trump Towers discussed above), and these have not yet been added to MLS inventory. Condos priced between $1M and $2.5M had inventory (in Miami only) of 1451 in Feb'08 with 27 sales. Condos priced between $2.5M and $5M had inventory of 315 in Feb'08 with 5 sales. If these sales rates continue, this calculates to 4.5 years and 5 year supply, respectively. Condos priced below $1M have previously been selling at a rate of 72 per month. The current inventory (not including projects under construction) is estimated to be a 5 year supply. If one includes new projects (and compounded by difficult-to-get condo mortgage financing), this inventory could swell to 8-9 year supply. As for future projections, the following chart (edited by Miami realtor John Carpa) was found on a Miami R/E blog. This shows how a typical 1 bedroom oceanfront condo price soared from 1999. The inset shows since October, 2007 prices for properties listed over 150 days have been dropping at a steady rate of about $20K per month. His projection line suggests prices will have to drop to pre-2001 levels over the next decade. His peak was $399K ($317/ft2) in 2007 and 2001 was $230K ($183/ft2) -- an expected drop of 42%.

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This next chart confirms from Zillow.com that the typical 1 bedroom oceanfront in Sunny Isles Beach peaked in Summer/Fall of 2006. Thus, an $85K unit in 1999 was valued at just over $400K in 2006.

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The foreclosure rate in Palm Beach County, Florida surpassed $1 Billion in defaulted mortgages during the 1st 6 months of 2007. Since a majority (I have read up to 90%) of sub-prime mortgages were of the teaser ARM variety, and ARM rates are going to reset higher, the chart below suggests we could see $30B per month in resets over the next 12-16 months. Of these, perhaps 50% may end up in foreclosure.

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The Chicago Merchantile Exchange (CME) is trading futures contracts on the Case-Shiller housing index for selected cities. The following reveals the Miami "futures" chart through the end of 2012 where current expectations are for an additional drop of 27% in residential property values. (Sunday March 23, 2008 PM): A quick note... apparently Bear Stearns derivative portfolio notional value was 13.4 Trillion as of last weekend. J.P.Morgan's was $83.9 Trillion as of Q3'2007. Taking on Bear Stearns derivative portfolio means JPM could now sport a portfolio in excess of $97 Trillion (however, I am sure JPM & BSC have a portion of inter-counterparty trades that will essentially net out when the portfolios are combined). Nonetheless, anything over 1 trillion is a huge number, but anything approaching 100 trillion is so large that should never be allowed to be concentrated with one company. If it was JP Morgan that was about to go belly up last weekend instead of BSC, who would have been able to step up to help bail them out? The Bernanke script suggests it would have been almost entirely upon the Fed... which translates to you and me... and our children, and their children. Do the math: experts claim that average derivative trading portfolios are really "at risk" for about 2% of the notional value. 2% of $100 trillion is $2 trillion. If that ends up being JPM's loss in this, then we as individuals will end up paying for it by amortizing this loss over many years of US budget deficts. If Bernanke chooses to print his way out of any bailout, then the inflationary tax will be a permanent scar and reminder of this foolishness. Bear Stearns was not too big to fail, but JP Morgan is. The precident has been established. We should all be very worried. (Saturday March 22, 2008 AM): The following was a posting I made to several chart forums late last week. I had hoped to have time to embelish a bit with charts and article links, etc. But yesterday I noticed that a lot of mainstream online articles are already discussing the same scenario -- so my "enlightenment" it seems was already well disseminated. So I decided instead to take the weekend off and enjoy Easter Holiday with family & friends. For readers that are still not too clear about what is happening right now with the sharp selling of gold & silver and the abrupt rise in US Dollar, perhaps my tome will help in that explanation. I am calling it: The Great Unwinding I woke up at 3:30am this morning with an epiphany moment. You know that feeling you get when you are putting together a complicated jigsaw puzzle, you got a lot done, but you go for a while with nothing new added... and then someone walks by and goes, "oh, here, this one fits right there..." and then walks away... ok, that feeling right there, that's what hit me once I realized a lot of the pieces of the financial markets had been there all along, I recognized them individually for what they were, I thought I had understood it, but apparently I had not yet put the whole picture together... and then wham! It was suddenly crystal clear. I think Denninger's posting last night may have been the trigger and my subconscious must have been churning over it as I slept. It is all about the hedge funds and financial houses that have essentially treated their trading strategy as though it were a hedge fund. Companies like Bear Stearn & Lehman are excellent examples. I'll toss all of them into the same bucket of "hedge fund". The hedge funds have no rules, some are long some are short, but they all use massive leverage to achieve big results. And, they are into everything, every commodity, precious metals, wheat, oil, shorting the Dollar, anything with a momentum that they can ride on. During 2004-2006 it was not uncommon for mortgage-backed hedge funds to pay out dividends in excess of 50% per year. The only way that can be achieved is through tremendous leverage. We know for example, that Carlyle was leveraged 32:1 (which is probably modest compared to other hedge funds) despite the fact that they believed their investments were AAA and fully guaranteed by US government... hey, this was practically free money! Now the great unwinding is taking place. The leverage that worked so well when things were going their way, now works with opposite intensity as things contract. As such, hedge funds are getting margin calls -- not just little annoying ones, but big "oh shit" ones. To make those calls, hedge funds have no choice but to sell off their inventory to generate the necessary cash. If the funds were run by saavy traders, they would already be out of the riskiest stuff to minimize losses and the only things remaining would be the big gainers, like: Dollar shorts, oil longs, silver longs, etc. However, not all of the funds were managed by great traders, they were managed by mediocre or worse, because what many are still holding are the most toxic of mortgage-backed securities, highly leveraged. Not willing to sell the biggest losers, they instead are selling their few winners... throwing the baby out with the bathwater along the way. Timing wise, this all appears to be happening since this past weekend... the fit has hit the shan. Since hedge funds can trade virtually anything, it is difficult to say exactly how things will work out. But I expect a contraction toward the center. In other words, the biggest recent gainers will be sold, and the biggest recent shorts will be bought. Many hedge funds will end up negating each other -- if their timing is similar they will simply net each other out and the market will not see too much of it -- but if their timing is disjoint, then we are likely to see huge volatility swings back & forth during this great unwinding. This explains why gold & silver have taken such a huge hit this week. Even great mining stocks, such as Goldcorp (GG) getting knocked for over -20% (this mornings low was -$10 from its recent high of $46.30). I see the Bear Stearns episode as a proxy for all hedge fund-like enterprises. Of the 7000+ hedge funds around today, perhaps only 700 will still be around 2-3 years from now. This is just the beginning, folks. A lot of what happened to Nasdaq in 2000-2001 will be repeated here because in the late 1990's traders were bidding up NDX stocks using margin accounts employing similar albeit less extreme leverage as today's hedge funds. This leverage created air pockets in the stock charts as the prices rose. Then when prices fell, they imploded much faster as prices fell through those no-support zones. Some have measured the Nasdaq drop as a loss of several $trillion in market capitalization value... but that value never really existed anyway because so much of the run-up was driven by marginning leverage. The same should apply with anything the hedge funds played with in momentum-driven rallies (or short runs). As they unwind, the price drops should be just as impressive as the rallies were. The loss in market capitalization will be just as impressive except hedge fund unwinding will unload hugely leveraged strategies resulting in market cap losses of tens of $Trillions. In my opinion, gold has a great outlook. However, in light of my view of hedge funds selling whatever they can, I think we could see low-$800's before we see $1000 again... and if that does not hold then the low-$700's. Silver may pull back to mid $15's. If this happens, back up the Loomis and load up. But between now and then it could get quite painful for many PM investor portfolios. Long term precious metal investors should not fret too much as this will appear as a temporary blip in the charts. 2008 will be the transition year as the hedge fund unwinding influence resolves itself and a new base is established for gold & silver. This will be where more individual investors will start buying gold & silver. I personally do not think we will see $2000 gold this calendar year, but I do think we will see $1000 again after the great unwinding has unwound, late this year. I also think silver will be the better long term investment over gold as the gold/silver ratio is likely to narrow from 53:1 to 20:1 over the next 3-4 years. Both gold & silver will do well, I just think silver gets the nod for best percentage gainer. (Friday February 8, 2008 PM): Many analysts have suspected that commerial property was next in line to be hit with the contagion of credit contraction. Now we have definitive evidence that it may be about to get hit hard. Karl Denninger mentioned it in his technical video, but to really see the comparison between credit grades I created the following chart:

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This chart shows the 6 credit grades from double-B to triple-A as a percentage change in BPS (basis point spread) from 1/1/2008 to 2/8/2008. Beginning Monday (2/4/08) of this week all grades of mortgage-backed securities basis point spreads widened out, but notice how the AAA and AA really widened the most. Mortgage backed securities on super-prime commerical real estate, rated AAA, went from a BPS of 118 on 1/30/08 to 149 on 2/4 which by itself was was a big change, but by friday (2/8) it had blown out to 224! The chart says it all... this was a huge move! An increase of over 100 basis points in only 7 trading days. So just when the banks and media were trying to convince everyone that the worst of sub-prime was behind us the next wave, from PRIME commerical real estate, is beginning to wash in. Data Source: www.markit.com. (Wednesday December 19, 2007 PM): The gold chart is looking particularly bullish. The wedge (or pennant) pattern since Nov'07 highs shows progressively lower highs and higher lows. The technical nature of this pattern is like a coil or spring being wound tighter and tighter into a smaller and smaller space. Eventually all of the energy stored in the spring explodes in an abrupt move outside of the wedge pattern.

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Even though gold prices have already trebled from $250's to $800, the current fundamental outlook is as bullish as it has ever been since 2001. Monitor this wedge pattern very closely as it weaves back and forth within the boundary lines in an ever-tighter coil. As soon as the price breaks out of the border lines, the price is likely to move very quickly. Because of the tremendous bullish fundamentals of gold, the price could knock up $900 before the end of Q1'2008. (Wednesday October 31, 2007 PM): Flash Update: Spot gold closed today for its highest monthly price in all of its glittering 5000 year history. (Sunday October 29, 2007 PM): What do Rumpelstiltskin and CyclePro have in common? Well, not 20 years... but CyclePro Outlook puts the PRO in PROcrastination. There have been dozens of times in the past several years that I wanted to update CyclePro Outlook. However, each time the subject was either more opinionating on current events or rehashing more of my primary investment strategy. Discussing current events as they unfolded quickly rotted between the time I wrote about it and the time when I had available to post it. As for the investment strategy, there was nothing new to post, just the same ol', same ol'. Actually a lot has happened over the past 3 years... I was there while the Enron fiasco temporarily pulled down the Houston economy enough where I was not certain to find comparable consulting gigs like I had before. Since the air pollution in Houston (the most polluted city in the US) was causing health issues for me I decided to step off the career train for a while and have some fun. So I moved to south Florida and went to Culinary School. I got my culinary degree and chef certification and moved on to baking and pastries... but wouldn't you know it, just when the chocolate quarter came up (can you believe it, an entire school quarter devoted entirely to chocolate) I got an offer to do some consulting out of state. It was supposed to last only 2 months so I thought I could return and resume baking. But alas, the client decided to extend my contract and amost 3 years later, I'm still there. I decided the culinary diversion was just that, a diversion at a time when I needed a change of air quality, change of outlook, and change of perspective, and everything in between. While in Houston I was having to take a daily prescription for high blood pressure, popping pills for almost daily headahes and/or migraines, lack of energy, and just an overall yucky mood. In just 2 months in Florida spending as much time as possible at the beach, I was feeling much better. After 1 year my health returned to what it should be, high blood pressure back to "normal", no more daily headaches or migraines, my doctor took me off all medications. I am now healthier at 49 than I was at 29. CyclePro Outlook - Where everyone is entitled to my opinion. Now that the sub-prime real estate debacle has stared to unwind, the stock market is at new highs, the world economy is destabilizing, and of course gold is shining brightly at the moment -- all good reasons to jump in with an updated opinion. After all, I believe everyone is entitled to my opinion... and it is just that, an opinion, not investment advice. Where are we now? For starters I need to update my previous forecasts to see where we are... on track? or do we need to readjust? My most famous chart, the 200-year inflation-adjusted chart of US stocks, is so long-term that even after 3 years it has not moved very much.

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However the following is a zoomed-in view of the most recent activity:

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The most recent rally looks like it is heading to the top channel line again. Bouncing and trying again to hit the top channel line is similar to what happened in the 1899-1906 topping event. This chart uses inflation data from US Federal Reserve websites. The Fed's CPI is about as useful to economic reality as a DVD Rewinder is for DVD's. Using inflation data from Shadow Government Statistics website (www.shadowstats.com), the following clearly shows the 17.6 year cycle top in 2000. The current rally, after adjustment for inflation, appears as a feeble bear market rally. From an Elliott Wave perspective, it looks like the current rally may still have some frothy legs to rally higher yet. But keep in mind, I believe this is only a rally in a larger bear market as this chart shows and eventually there will be a collapse of immense proportions. This chart helps to pin a timeframe for the next DJIA trough. Adding 17.6 years to January, 2000 reveals Q3'2017 as a likely low.

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Sorry for repeating this, but please keep in mind that these charts are adjusted for inflation. This means that the printed DJIA level in the future may very well be higher, perhaps even much higher, than today but the value of the dollars for which the DJIA will be priced will be worth significantly less than today. So much so, that even with a higher printed DJIA price the actual value relative to 2000 may be cut in half or less. The rising centerline in the first chart suggests a conservative target low of about 6500 by 2017 and if it goes down to the first lower channel line then perhaps 3300... or worse case scenario, down to the lowest channel line at 2200. If you look back in history, each time the DJIA touched the top channel lines, eventually it traded down to the lower channel lines. There is nothing that I see that will change this pattern. Vindication! Back in 2003 when crude oil was $26 I took a lot of heat from a few readers for forecasting that $40 was an "inevitable certainty" and longer term I expected over $90 with a possibility of triple digits. Understand that in that timeframe crude oil had just doubled from 18 months earlier and people were already complaining of high prices at the pump... yes, those $1.20 pump prices were rally gouging our household budgets! Well $40 came and went. Last week we saw $92. Haven't seen $100 yet... nonetheless I feel quite vindicated with that original forecast. I had originally thought the $90-100 price would occur before 2010... I really had no idea it would happen so quickly. No More Gouging at the Pump I find it interesting that when crude oil prices hit $40, prices at the pump were almost $3. Then crude oil surged to $60 and pump prices returned to $3. Now that were in the $90 area, pump prices are still $3. Big Oil may be making a ton of money right now, but as for refinery margins, certainly consumers can see that with improved efficiency and thiner profit margins, Big Oil has been able to successfully keep pump prices quite low. Back when we first hit $40 crude, I had thought that $90 crude would mean at least $6 at the pump. Any Way You Burn it, High Crude Oil Stokes Inflation Crude Oil is the world's most consumed industrial commodity. As such, it essentially functions as a currency too. While a lot of the currently high price is reflective of a weaker US Dollar, crude oil is still higher to everyone worldwide. The high price of crude cascades through the rest of the energy products because as consumers seek alternatives, those products price must also rise to satisfy the new demand. How Is Crude Oil Related to Doughnuts & Coca Cola? Because of high Crude prices, ethanol is being touted as a domestic solution to reliance on foreign supply. Ethanol is made from corn (although not very efficiently... sugar cane and certain grasses make for more efficient ethanol production). As a result, corn prices risen dramatically. Because of high corn prices, farmers seeking alternatives have used wheat. Mexico is having a shortage of corn tortilla. High wheat prices affects baked goods. When corn is used for ethanol, it is not available for making corn sweetener, which is used in Coca Cola and other sweetened sodas and soft drinks. This is texbook for price inflation. Monetary inflation is caused by the Federal Reserve printing up too many Dollars... and that is happening too. But price inflation is when shortages caused by high demand requires higher prices to relieve the pressures. So while most people simply view high crude oil as affecting prices at the pump, or heating oil for the winter, or jet fuel for airplanes, the real affect bleeds through the entire economy and no one is completely isolated from its effects. You cannot ship a package without fuel for jets or trucks. You cannot make corn sweetener with out corn. You cannot make doughnuts without flour. And don't forget about all of the plastics that are byproducts of crude oil -- look around your home or office and note how many items are made with plastic. Crude oil directly or indirectly affects just about everyone in developed or developing economies, every individual, every business. No one will be able to escape its inflationary influence. Airlines will be hit hard, I expect them begin upping their flyer-mile mileage requirements for free trips. Airline tickets and shipping companys will be adding fuel surcharges soon. As heating and cooling energy prices rise people will seek alternatives, that should cause price increases for things like solar panels and wind generators. The list of product price increases will be endless as one increase affects another, and the price inflation ripple cascades through just about every product that everyone uses. In the 1970's 250 ounces of gold bought a nice house and 50 ounces bought a decent car. Today the same 250 ounces buys a $200,000 house and a $40,000 car. In 10 years I expect the same ounces will also buy a nice house and a decent car. Prices are rising for holders of Dollars, protect yourself and your wealth, buy gold. Frankenstein Seedstock On the subject of corn, Monsanto and Cargill may soon have supreme control over corn and other argi-grains once they successfully introduce and enforce the use of their newest genetically-modified seeds. As the demand for more corn acrage and higher yield increases, Monsanto/Cargill will be only too willing to accommodate with their new wonder seeds. These frankenstein seeds grow once but whose progeny seed is sterile and will not sprout if replanted. As such, farmers will become slaves to the Mansanto-Cargill cartel and be forced to buy their seed stock each and every spring. Heirloom seed stock will eventually become rare and may even become extinct as the new engineered seed will be more resistant to persistent pests and fungi. Old Charts, New Charts Before we get into gold, let's look at how the DJIA-Gold ratio charts are shaping up. The previous chart suggested that gold would outperform the DJIA until 2013-2018 timeframe. Three years ago the chart was at 27 and today it is at 18. Clearly, this forecast continues to be on-track for a lower ratio. The final expectation is conservatively somewhere around 2:1. Richard Russell has been saying he expects closer to 1:1. It really does not matter since anything near Mr. Russell's or my estimate potends a disaster for stock investors.

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As a reminder of why the ratio should collapse, the following chart demonstrates the long-term inverse relationship between inflation-adjusted DJIA and the price of gold.

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The two major cycles of the past century shows that the price of gold should peak right at or just before the lowest point of the inflation-adjusted DJIA. Nimble investors will attempt to switch investment strategies at that time. As for me, this is retirement stuff so I have no plans to tag the bragging rights of hitting the perfect top. Rather, my plan is to begin exiting gold as the DJIA-Gold ratio approaches 2:1 and not worry about missed opportunities if the ratio moves lower to 1:1. I will say this though... a move in the ratio from 2:1 to 1:1 means that during this episode either the price of gold doubles or the DJIA level cuts in half -- that's a lot of "opportunity" left on the table.The peak in gold is likely to be another brief spike so it will be a more conservative strategy to be a few months too early than a week too late. But hey... according to these charts that could be 10 years from now -- on the other hand, theings have been happening a lot quicker than we had thought, so it is best to not become complacent and continually review the progress of our charts and indicators. Breaking a 5000 Year Old Record? I do not have much new information to add to my previous forecast for gold. We are clearly on track for higher prices. My original forecast made in 2002 was for $2000/oz by 2012-2014 with a possible brief spike to $3000. It was not mentioned by any media or newsletter that I can find, but as far as monthly price charts go the September, 2007 monthly close for gold was the highest monthly close ever! Even in 1980 when the price peaked to $850, it was mid-month and prices dropped by the end of that month. For very long-term charting, this new high is a significant event that no one seemed to catch. October, 2007 looks like it may close at an even higher price... another all-time record. A few in the media refer to 27 or 28 year highs which compares to 1980... but as far as monthly closing prices go... the 5000 year history of gold is a very long time and we are knocking on that most significant new record. From an Elliott Wave perspective, we are clearly in the early stages of a dramatic wave 3 rally. For me personally, I have been trying to finese into several leveraged gold securities (such as options and gold exploration and mid-level mining companies) but waiting for a pullback has been an exercise in futility. This is the stuff wave 3's are made of. My core position and mid-timeframe investment strategies are fully invested. What I am attempting to do is play the upcoming massive rally with a playful short-term strategy. I am not alone. The gold camp is quite bullish right now and from a contrarian point of view a pullback "should" happen soon. But what we have had lately has been intra-day pullbacks, but nothing deep enough to trigger buy limits. This means the stochastics overbought levels are likely to stay in overbought for extended periods of time. If I miss out I have my core and mid-timeframe positions working for me. But the short-term stuff is merely to exercise my adrenaline. Gold Bugs, the Immoral Hazard Gold is and will continue to be manipulated by central banks. Of course it does not make sense to keep this charade up any longer, but central bankers answer to other interests. Another central bank supported sell-off in gold is still likely. If all I have to go by is the price charts, then it appears gold prices could continue ratcheting higher for several more months before traders take a breather. Central bankers don't necessarily look at price charts so they could intervene at any time. This is like the inverse of moral hazard. Investors in stocks believe the Fed will allow them to reap fantastic gains as prices rally but always intervene to bail them out if prices tumble. For gold the interests are reversed. To the central and bullion bankers, gold bugs are like casino Craps players who bet on the "Don't Pass" side of the roll -- pessimists that should not be given a moral handout for recognizing what is really happening. For the past 6 years of this gold bull market, gold traders have been jabbed by central and bullion banker selling as prices rallied too much too quick. The bankers would rather hold the price of gold flat, but they may no longer have the inventory to do so. Collectively they still have enough to sting the market again, but I doubt their collective interests are as aligned as they once were. It is also quite possible that they are scraping the bottom of the barrel to come up with sufficient bullion -- The Bank of England discovered that a portion of their scantly remaining inventory (which may be several hundered years old and lacking modern purity standards) is of sufficient quality to sell into the market. At some point they have to ask themselves, we own an asset that is rising in value, shouldn't we be holding this instead of trading for Dollars that are falling in value? Gotta Get GATA The boys over at GATA (www.gata.org) have been called every conspiracy-laced derogatory name in the book... but you know what? The evidence is building. They were right then and they are right now. Quite frankly I am pleased that the banks had been selling so much gold over the past 20+ years. It has allowed me to buy gold and silver at very low prices and position myself to be prepared in a rock-solid investment for the coming economic debacle. Gold-Silver Ratio Three years ago the Gold-Silver ratio was at 60:1 and suggested silver would continue to strengthen relative to gold. Today the ratio is 55 so it continues. The peak of 97 was in 1992 and adding 25.5 years to that suggests a ratio low near 17:1 sometime during 2017. Adding 48 years to the previous ratio low in 1968 suggests late 2016 as the next likely low. You can do the math... if gold peaks out at 2000/oz then silver should be close to $120/oz... likewise $3000 gold suggests $175 silver... and for the ultra-bullish gold price of $5000 reveals an estimate for silver of almost $300/oz.

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Sub-Primevil Mortgage Lenders Sub-prime is the scapegoat buzzword for the collapsing mortgage and credit derivative markets. Sub-prime by itself is not a as bad of a problem as it may appear since there have always been mortgage loans for borrowers with less than perfect credit histories. But the current street definition of sub-prime is the toxic transformation of sub-prime borrowers who stretched their finanical history in their favor, or purchaed homes for investment flipping while saying on their loan apps that the homes were to be owner-occupied. Sure, sub-prime variable-rate and teaser-rate loans were a disaster even before the first loans were written, but it is only the tip of the ol' iceburg. The same mentality that created the environment for sub-prime mortgages to flurish also allowed otherwise higher quality mortgages to slide into lesser qualities. The credit rating agencies, largely through their own faulty revenue structure, continued to get paid by banks to rate packages (called tranches) of mortgages at their original/higher quality level. As a result, investors bought what they thought was high quality, low risk securities. To make matters worse, much worse, hedge funds, banks, and pension plans began buying these asset-backed debt obligation packages (CDOs: collateralized debt obligations) for their high yield. That in itself would would be bad, but what made it toxic was how, particularly the hedge funds, used these CDO's as collateral leverage to buy even more CDO's. It was not uncommon for hedge funds to pyramid CDO's on top of CDO's to return 30%, 50% even as high as 70% to shareholders. Wanting to keep up with the Jones's, banks and pension funds followed suit. Clearly, while this was developing, no one seriously took a step back to ask whether these high yields were appropriate. Generally if something is too good to be true, then it probably is. But no one seemed to care as long as the gravy train rewarded them with windfall yields. The Arthur Anderson Approach to Credit Rating The last time I witnessed such an orgy of abundant & grossly negligent investment blindness was in the late 1990's when in the height Houston's energy trading industry, everyone was in awe of Enron's seemingly unstoppable profitability. So everyone wanted to be just like Enron. Many of the clients I consulted for were actively building trading organizations that would attempt to rival big brother Enron. Keep in mind that Enron was secretly siphoning off their losses onto off-shore accounts thus artificially inflating their apparent profits -- all with Arthur Anderson's professional audit blessing. Even though many of the Enron-wanna-be managers suspected Enron's above board strategies were borderline illegal or worse, they still continued the pursuit of questionable finance for themselves. I recall hearing a joke about Enron, "it's only illegal if you get caught". Once the Enron castle collapsed, so did many of these wanna-be's. After paying huge fines, loss of market share, and reduced investor confidence, the trading shops that still exist have transformed themselves back to their original core business, keeping whatever derivative business they still have under tight audit scrutiny and well within VaR (value-at-risk) parameters. Several years from now, I expect that at least one of the big rating agencies will no longer exist and the others will have their revenue structures completely revamped. As for investors buying into this titantic superfund -- the term "dumb schmuck" comes to mind. I think you'd be better off buying a highrise condo in North Miami Beach, at least while losing your money you can still enjoy the view. Superfund Bailout: Banks Too Big To Fail, Screw Investors And now we hear about a rescue plan for the biggest domestic players in the sub-price market. A $75-80 billion superfund will be created to purchase asset-backed securities from Citibank, JPMorgan-Chase, and Bank of America which is supposed to stabilize the valuation of the securities. Apparently the junkiest of these securities are supposed to be written off and only the higher quality securities sold to the superfund. I read that the fund will buy these packages at 94 cents on the dollar. What this implies is since this will be considered a "market value" any other bank or fund holding similar CDO's will be able to value them also at 94 cents... instead of 50 cents or 30 cents or whatever the real market would otherwise value them at. Essentially, this is little more than a circuit breaker for a financial product that has no clearinghouse. While the stock exchanges will shut down if stock prices fall too far too fast, this superfund is intended to do the same thing. It allows the entire market to take a breather and hope calmer heads will prevail and CDO valuations will return to their previous levels, and everyone will live happily everafter. I am truely a contrarian when it comes to investing, so when the streets are flowing red from the blood of wounded investors, it generally signals a time to begin investigating opportunities. This time I am not even remotely interested -- I think there is much more blood to be spilled. In fact I think any investor thay buys into this superfund right now will be making a huge mistake. I'll leave the act of juggling with knives to the circus. First of all, who makes the decision about which tranches will be sold? The Enronesque credit rating agencies that inappropriately (fraudulently) mis-rated them in the first place? Or the banks that desparately need to unload their toxic waste -- losing only 6% sounds to me like a bailout dream come true for the banks. Since the US Treasury has been involved in the negotiation of this superfund, I can only guess that any oversight by SEC or Congressional banking & finance committies will be completely sidestepped. It appears to me that this superfund is little more than pulling an "Enron" right under everybodies noses. The apparent moral hazard and the eventual aftermath will be just as predictable if not horrifically more widespread. And, what happens if the investors of this superfund sustain massive losses or the fund eventually collapses? Because of the involvement of the US Treasury will the banks be granted immunity from investor lawsuits? Goldman-Sachs was invited to the design meetings of the superfund, why did they back away? Does Anyone See A Bubble on the Horizon? One after another, we see a bubble burst, the Fed rushes in to rescue and as a result creates another bubble. Rescuing CDO holders is likely to spark another bubble somewhere. Where will it be this time? If in Doubt, Stay Out If you get a chance, take a look at your current money market fund holdings. I have an account with Fidelity Investments with 2 separate money market funds, one tax-free and the other taxable. For some reason, I expected the funds to have solid, extremely low-risk investments -- silly me. I discovered that is not necessarily the case. The funds stated purpose is to maintain a $1 NAV price while returning a relatively high yield. Yet in both funds I found a higher percentage of CDO's and commercial paper collateralized with mortgage CDO's than I thought should be prudent considering the toxicity of the leveraging being used behind the covers. I decided not to take any more risk until this whole sub-prime & mortgage CDO situation settles down. I know I will lose 1% in yield, but since I need to keep some cash in money market I moved nearly all of those holdings into a US Treasury backed money market fund. Can't be CyclePro Without Some Bush Bashing Look at me, I just went through all of this stuff without even once mentioning anything bad about George W. Bush. While I could list all of the reasons why Bush is to blame for ignoring all of trouble signs and allowing the economy to slip into the massive mess we are in, but you have heard it all already. I will say this, it is truely unfortunate for the chain of events that we have experienced over his presidential tenure and for the events that will unfold and ripple through the near and distant future. It is too big of a mess to avoid. But in order for my most bearish forecast to materialize (as is happening right now), it required someone like G.W. Bush to allow it to happen. Had other candidates won the presidency I am sure some of the events would have still occured, but I seriously doubt it would have been as bad as what we have now. A lot can happen in the 15 months remaining in the Bush tenure. Not enough time to fix the mess but ample time to make it much worse. It seems Bush is only a moment away from starting a war with Iran over its alledged nuclear bomb capabilities. Iran, Bush says, is the biggest threat to our national defense. Yet while all this sabre rattling is going on, China is quietly testing and preparing to create a lunar orbiting vessel that may someday have the maneuverability to seek and disable individual orbiting satellites all while being controlled by mobile submarine control centers. If China suceeds, good bye cellphones, good bye pagers (does anyone still use those relics?), good bye CNN, good bye satellite radio, good bye GPS-guided missiles. If China suceeds, the war in Iraq may be over sooner than we think. Is it just me or does this whole Iran thing sound like another maneuver by Bush to keep oil prices high for his Big Oil buddies, to continue destabilizing the Mideast, and to further debase the Dollar through runaway defense spending? If China succeeds in its mission, we have no defense. Is this not a greater threat? Being Prepared While Preparing is Still an Option I have prepared myself as best I can for the economic upheaval that I believe we will experience over the coming 5-10 years. I am a late baby boomer that will reach retirement age right about the time I think stocks bottom out and gold peaks. I prefer to be wrong about my forecast. But in the event that I am correct (and all evidence right now suggests I am squarely on track) then the best I can do is be prepared while preparing is still an option. I started buying most of my physical gold in 2001 and even with recent purchases my weighted average is still in the low $300's. My first purchase, which was actually a mutual fund which I thought was a very conservative move for my IRA, was in February, 2001, the US World Precious Metals fund (UNWPX) under $5. It is now over $35. While that has turned out to be a good investment in itself, what has made it a truely great investment was that the reinvested dividends along with rising NAV value actually paid for the original investment after only the first 2 1/2 years. What was originally supposed to be a "conservative" investment turned into a 10-bagger in 6 years. For the record, CyclePro Outlook formerly turned bullish on gold on April 2, 2001, one day after the COMEX low price was traded. I started buying gold related securities in February, 2001 because my initial trading was intended to be "conservative" and for that I did not really care that I picked the absolute low... just getting near the low was my primary objective. I bought UNWPX for $4.89 and Harmony Gold (HMY) for $5.53. In May, 2001 I wanted to get a little more speculative and bought Golden Resources (GSS) for $0.58. October, 2001 I started buying physical gold and bought the Perth Mint year 2000 1oz gold dragon coins. In February, 2007 the premium in these coins had attained significant collector value so I traded them in to convert the premium into increased bullion ounces of both gold and silver. In October, 2002 I discovered Goldcorp and started buying it at $9.90 but it dropped in price so by March, 2003 I bought more, much more, at $3.38 and in December, 2003 it recovered and I bought even more at $12.26. Not exactly a perfect buying record, but in hindsight and a current price above $30 I have nothing but pride for following through on my core investment strategy and buying at regular intervals regardless of the price... the dollar cost averaging approach. Aren't Dividends Just Quaint Relics of the Past? No one seems to consider dividends any more. If a stock or funds pays any dividend at all, most investors see it as a quaint gesture or outdated relic from the past, but nothing more than that. I expect that by 2014-2017, dividends will become a major consideration once again. With that in mind, if an investor is trying to decide which of 2 investments is the better choice, and all other comparisons are equal, choose the one that has the best opportunity to pay dividends or to increase their dividends... and reinvest them. The UNWPX example above demonstrates how the stock (or fund) itself returned 7x gains, but the dividends alone returned an additional 3x. "Hope" is a Very Poor Trading Strategy Right now U.S. stocks don't pay squat for dividends. Now it is all about speculative price appreciation. But I expect that to change. My current retirement plans expect that dividends will play a major role in my retirement income. It is not hope by which I make this expectation, the economic cycles of finance also include the ebb and flow of investor fads, such as dividends. Although I do not possess the chart data to demonstrate and/or forecast it with the same exactness as my other forecasts, I do expect dividends from blue chip and high quality stocks to be paying double-digit dividends 7-10 years from now. If anyone is looking for a brief yet fairly complete history and explanation of the role of Central Banks please check out this article by Mike Hewitt: America's Forgotten War Against the Central Banks. Ok, I did it... I said my CyclePro Outlook updates would be infrequent. I have no idea when I will post another, so stay tuned. Good luck always.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-4 18:27 | 显示全部楼层
Eur/Usd
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1- If wave four crosses into wave one territory then it simply isn't wave four and wave one. It very well could be a correction, but basically you should find a new count that follows Elliott Wave rules.

2- When looking at corrections, wave C is ALWAYS a five wave move. Wave A can be either a three or a five wave move depending on what type of correction is unfolding. I've attached a chart of the six types of corrective patterns. In the case of a triangle, all waves (a-b-c-d-e) are three wave moves.

3- You are correct. Wave four is NOT allowed to overlap wave one. If you do have a count that has wave four overlap into wave one territory, look to see if it's a correction or if there is a wave extension forming. It's possible to have a series of 1st and 2nd waves forming.

4- Wave C of a correction is ALWAYS a five wave move. Wave B is ALWAYS a three. Wave B is correcting wave A and therefore must be a three wave move. If you are certain that you are in a wave B and you see a five wave move, that simply means wave B isn't finished and you will get another five wave move. Again, wave C is ALWAYS a five wave move.

5- Those questions are paramount when dealing with corrections. It's very important to understand the rules and guidlines of Elliott Wave. If you don't then there is no way you can accurately decipher price action.

This website lists out all of the rules and guidlines of Elliott Wave. Go to the website and study what they have to say. Another resource, probably one of the best, is the book "Elliott Wave Principle" by Frost and Prechter.

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The way I learned was to not try to predict future movements, but to go back in price history and just try to find examples of as many different types of formations as I could. Using the two charts I attached and the list of Elliott Wave rules and guidlines, I just go back through all of the different charts and look for impulse moves and corrections. If you ever have a question, you have two pictures of how things are supposed to look and a set of rules to help you out. When you do find a pattern, break it down even further and look at the construction of it.

For example, the chart that MAK just posted of the EUR/USD is one I've been looking at for a while now. Just in that one impulse move alone there is a lot of Elliott Wave. There's a flat, a triangle, extended waves all over the place, the Fibonacci numbers work out some, the concept of alternation, a double zig-zag... All sorts of stuff just in that one move.

So my advice is just to go back through and study. You and I share the same mind-set about this trading. It's not so much about money as it is simply just interesting and neat to learn. I may be a dork, but I enjoy going through the past and finding different patterns just as much as I do making a few bucks.

Good Luck!
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Hey John,

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If it WAS A TRIANGLE indeed (I know, some people don't agree), then the burst out has a long way to go yet.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-5 07:29 | 显示全部楼层
Eur/usd
My count....
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-5 07:30 | 显示全部楼层
Eur/usd
with the max at 15227.....wave v is 61,8% of wave i....
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-5 07:32 | 显示全部楼层
Euro/Usd
( 1hr bars )
Here is a look at today's Euro Wave-count

Here is a look at what may be occurring ......
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Only a Probability ! ....... Not Cast in stone !
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-5 07:33 | 显示全部楼层
Eur/Usd
Wave-count ( 1hr Bars )

Chakow ......
this is the wave-count that I am observing of the Euro
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What is your wave-count ? .....
Do you have wave-count available ?
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-5 07:33 | 显示全部楼层
see below
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-5 07:34 | 显示全部楼层
I have a question for you guys and i haven't been able to find an answer in the literature.
Below you will see two charts. They are both USDJPY identical charts, 4h interval.
Now, in the 1st chart wave 1 does not overlap with wave 4, see my parallel line, in fact wave 1 and 4 both touch the line.
But, in the second chart, once I show it in the "rough" or "unshaven" form, with all candlesticks wicks, you will see that the wicks or shadows overlap slightly.
Now, the question is/ are:
1. Can the wicks overlap between wave 1 and 4?
2. will the overlap of the wicks invalidate my count?
It seems that Prechter does not address the question. In fact, I noticed that many charts seem to overlap in the shadow part only between 1 and 4.Attached Thumbnails  

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-5-5 07:54 | 显示全部楼层
Mike,

I'm by no means an expert but here is my take on usd/jpy 4h. I'm not sure how to label the waves in wave 2, I just know they are corrective due to overlapping each other.

It's good to see Justy's or someone else count on the yen.
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