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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 18:14 | 显示全部楼层
Nov 30, 2007 8:54am
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Hi EG
can u plz confirm if this wave count for 30 mins is correct..
thnx
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Nov 30, 2007 5:33pm
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Just thought i'll post another possibility...this is for eur/jpy, but is also true for gbp/jpy as they have similar movements...

Comments welcome
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Nov 30, 2007 5:37pm
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Phew. I'm sooooooooo glad I don't have to try and figure all that stuff out!
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Nov 30, 2007 10:36pm
el grande
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Hello Everyone.

I hope everyone made money this past week.

Kevin., thank you for sharing your charts here.

niceguy777... yes EW is a bit complex and it may not be for everyone. I almost gave up on it had it not been for my 6 year old son.

I was so immersed with trading this past days that I did not see the actual pattern developing yesterday on the GBPJPY.

But after seeing Kevin's chart on EURJPY, I pulled up a GBPJPY chart to see if I can duplicate it. And what do I see on a blank chart?.........

Attached is what I just saw and wanted to share with all of you.

Let us make money next week for the Christmas Season and beyond....

Remember to share the blessings.....

Happy Weekend Everyone and Good trading for the Days to Come

EG
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Dec 1, 2007 4:48am
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This is what is nice about the weekend.

One or I get to relax and see a non moving price chart

I am attaching some more charts to support the view that GBPJPY will see a slight downward move this Asia Monday Open then Develops into an EXTENDED WAVE 5 going up for the minimum @ 238.67

But because GBPJPY is a very volatile pair, IMHO, 238.67 is just the minimum which is the 161.8% of the wave0 to wave 3 length, I expect it to go much higher.

Beyond 238.67, do a trailing stop.

But if you follow Elliott Wave Structures, then you will have a better chance of seeing a wave terminate.

May we all have a Wonderful Christmas

EG

PS. Note that I set my SL from 300 to 600 pips for this Pair.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 18:16 | 显示全部楼层
Dec 2, 2007 8:50pm
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Good Morning Everyone.

I hope you have banked some of those profits from the initial down move this morning.

I did not get the Australian open to the Asian Open and the first max down of the asian. was in a little before the asian to avoid the negative swap but hesitated to pull trigger when it stalled at wave 3 of wave 3 down.

but banked when it went down again.

now watching if this is now on its way up for the wave 4 to 228 then down to maybe 225.96 or to the daily Pivot to finish off this flat correction.

Then we all ride this baby up the clouds.....

let us watch.

Good Harvest Everyone.

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Dec 2, 2007 8:59pm
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update

Is it really possible to walk the price at almost each turn down to the 1min or 5min or the 15 min charts?

many find it easy around the 4hr and Daily Charts. But they consider lower than 4hours as mostly noise.

Let us see if we can be better listeners here.

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Dec 2, 2007 9:07pm
el grande
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next time hold on to your wave 3.

I banked mine too early. was too eager to have some profits for the morning after missing the first one.

Now I have to wait for the Ride up. rather than enter a new down move again.

Nursing the 2 opposite trades from last Friday. I hope to close the short close to breakeven before The ride UP.

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Dec 2, 2007 9:16pm
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could be this one too.

I suggest that we wait for it to go up to 228 if it does then make a pull back for around 61.8% at least .....

then I will enter a small long Position..

will then wait for another signal to enter another long for the ride to the clouds.


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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 18:18 | 显示全部楼层
Dec 3, 2007 4:24am
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I was wrong to assume that that was the bottom.

Anyway, we have to give room for this set backs. Rather than a narrow SL, mine is at 300-600.

Attached is new proposed EW Count or structure.

I will be able to close my old short trade from last week earlier than I expected.

EG
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Dec 3, 2007 3:44pm
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Jus an update for the 4 hour chart...
EG let me knw if ive counted wrong
thnx
I hope u dont mind me posting charts on ur thread
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Dec 3, 2007 7:40pm
el grande
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Hi Kevin.

Your uptrend count is most probably correct.

Now I do not remember where I got that leading diagonal triangle for my wave 1 when all I can see now is just a channel instead of that diagonal triangle I initially thought I saw.

Yellow B and C though are still different from mine.

BTW, Keep Posting your charts. I will also learn from your charts and your counts if you do not mind.

This thread is for everyone who wants to learn and share what they know about EW Analysis. So anyone is free to post their charts here.

We can all learn EW together.

EG
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Dec 3, 2007 8:22pm
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Let's if this holds
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Dec 3, 2007 8:35pm
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Thank you EG
That's very generous of you. I too am learning a lot from you. Together we all can try to eliminate mistakes in EW counting.

I was trying to figure out where I should open a long position (I already opened 1), so I dropped down to the 1 hour chart. Wave 4 possibily might not be over...seems like a zigzag in the making. Seems like a 5-3-5 structure. Possible wave 4 termination between 225.00 - 226.00

Awaiting your views
P.S. Can wave 2 retrace EXACTLY to the origin of wave 1? I didn't find any material that doesn't allow the retrace of wave 2 to the exact point of origin of wave 1, If it can, then probably the 1 and 2 of the current forming wave c is valid
BTW, the "C" in yellow is actually supp to be "C" in blue
Kevin
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Dec 3, 2007 10:23pm
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Jus curious to see if this might be the possible correction pattern...
Phew!!! i better get some sleep
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 18:19 | 显示全部楼层
Dec 4, 2007 5:38am
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So far so good...Going as planned
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Dec 4, 2007 8:09am
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Cool...just a final 5th wave to go before we head back up...Possible targets for long 228.50(in case of a truncated 5th wave), but ideally should go to 231.50
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Dec 4, 2007 5:17pm
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Jus waiting to see if this might be the end of wave 5 of Wave C of WAVE 4.
Thou the downside (if any) should be limited to 225.00.

Also keeping options open for possible Double-Threes complex correction, preferably a flat or a triangle
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Dec 4, 2007 5:49pm
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I think you are doing Great Kevin.

Below is my Revised Count on 1 Hour chart.

I am more inclined with the Blue Option 3 Count.

I am experimenting on ignoring wave 4 overlaps with wave 1 if it is due to a spike.


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Dec 4, 2007 5:57pm
kevmcfoster
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Quote:
Originally Posted by el grande
I think you are doing Great Kevin.

Below is my Revised Count on 1 Hour chart.

I am more inclined with the Blue Option 3 Count.

I am experimenting on ignoring wave 4 overlaps with wave 1 if it is due to a spike.


EG


Thank you EG
I think you forgot to add your chart
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Dec 4, 2007 6:20pm
el grande
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Kevin ... I actually was in the process of replacing the earlier chart I posted with the text .

Had to replace it to show a better FIT for the Magenta Channel to parallel the lines from the side of the wave 2 and the wave 4.
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Trying to show an example as per textbook that when wave 0 1 and 2 are available, you draw a channel based on the wave 0 and 1 side to see potential resistance for wave 3.

And when potential wave 3 has probably ended and normally with a spike then followed by a wave 4 formation, then we adjust the channel to use wave 2 and wave 4 ends as the basis for the parallel lines against the wave 1 end.

Normally we would see that wave 3 as an overthrow.

Wave 5 is then perceived to reach the other side of the channel from where wave 4 ended.

Of course wave 5 can still make for an overthrow on that channel or may not even reach that other side of the channel.

I would normally watch out for the wave equality also as wave 5 develops especially if wave 3 is extended which would be the case if I select Option 3 Wave count.

Which brings me to watch watch out for a possible wave 5 failure that could terminate @ 229.19 both satisfying a wave 5 failure and the guideline for wave equality.

Still, I am open to seeing GBPJPY go further up as there are also cases where both wave 3 and wave 5 can both be extended.

EG
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Dec 4, 2007 11:11pm
el grande
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Let me share what I have come up with on my chart and explain to you the details.

Below is a revised chart to show more of the details that I found before and also the ones I am seeing now.

Anyway, let me explain the details on my chart.

1st. There are the 3 options for the wave counts on my GBPJPY Chart.
a. I am more inclined with the Blue Wave Count Option.
b. Using the FIB Extention tool on MT4, I have wave 3 at FE 161.8 - 200.0 range which fits what I have iften observed with GBPJPY.
c. sub wave 4 of the wave 3 blue is quite deep which is a bit over 50% retracement of sub wave 3 (magenta FIB Retracement). Note I ignored the overlap of sub wave 4 into sub wave 1 inside wave 3.
d. sub wave 5 of wave 3 Blue then terminates just a litlle above sub wave 3.

Next I drew the Aquamarine channel to illustrate a Channeling which is happening here. (Actually I was testing the Guideline on Prechter's Book). Here I initially drew a channel using wave 0 1 and 2 with wave 0 and 2 trendline as the basis of one side of the channel while the otherside was banked on wave 1 end.

Then I was looking for the wave 3 projection together with the projection using the FIB extention tool. Although it has been noted that wave 3 almost always makes a throwover.

The same channel ( I just realized now ) was supposed to be used to project wave 4.

With the following features:
a. channelling guideline,
b. rule of alternation ( wave 2 was a sideways expansion so expecting wave 4 to be zigzag) ,
c. wave equality C=A for zigzag waves
d. wave 4 rule on overlapping with wave 1 ( with leniency on my part here due to spikes and volatility of this pair )

Now, we have not hit the lower side of the Aquamarine channel for our wave 4. So there could still be a possibility of price still coming down to kiss that channel or maybe not.

Incase it does not, then we should see GBPJPY climbing now with still a possibility of the retrace towards this bottom channel side for the wave 2 before really climbing any higher.

Fib Tools on my chart:

Turquoise Fib Extentioon tool is use to project the wave 3 and wave 5. wave 3 was in the FE 161.8 - 200.0 range. I would be looking at wave 5 to be in the 261.8 - 300.0 range or a possibility of the FE 425 level.

Magenta Fib Retracement tool is to illustrate the 50% retracement of sub wave 4 from the length of sub wave 3 of wave 3.

Yellow Fib extention tool was used to project the wave c of wave 4 Magenta . Although I preferred to use the retracement guideline for wave 4 being between 50-61.8% of wave 3 though normally at 38% or even 23.6% only if the prevailing maintrend is quite strong.

Blue Fib Extention Tool was used to project potential end of Blue wave 4

Red Fib Retracement Tool was to illustrate the wave equality where Magenta wave 5 was equal to Magenta wave 1 of the Blue wave 3. in this case it exceeded a little bit.

Also you will see the 3 Magenta Horizontal lines
a. Top is Possible support of a previous Resistance based on the wave 1 Magenta
b. middle as you go down is another potential support based on the wave b of Blue wave 2
c. and lastly at the bottom is the top of the Blue wave 1 which sets the limit of the lowest that wave 4 could go down to.

Broken yellow lines were support and resistance trendlines.

I am open to any constructive criticisms for the chart I just posted here

EG
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Dec 4, 2007 11:40pm
el grande
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Potential retrace now for GBPJPY wave 2 down towards previous low or arounf 50 to 76.4% of wave 1

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Dec 5, 2007 12:09am
el grande
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updated charts
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Dec 5, 2007 12:30am
el grande
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Caution.. though for EW.

Sometimes a wave 4 correction retraces the wave 3 by 23.6% only when the main trend is very strong (but normally 38.2% or the 50-61.8%)

Now I am not that sure with wave 2 if that also applies . But I have not seen that happen yet.

So what I would do is enter at 23.6% and another one at 50-61.8%.

I bring this up because I already see a 5 wave structure on the 1 minute chart and I see a pin bar on the 15 min chart.

EG
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Dec 5, 2007 1:59am
el grande
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possible unfolding if it does retrace now.

but could encounter some support at

Daily Pivot 226.63
Weekly Pivot 226.48
100 sma 15min 226.38

other than that it is free to retrace down to 50-100% of the previous rise.

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  #1303   
Dec 5, 2007 2:31am
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long time no see
hi el, long time no see~
I want to know why your fib extension is listing the price also... How can I set this?

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Dec 5, 2007 2:38am
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Previous assumption may have been too early.

I actually entered a short from 226.82 which I thought was initially the top of a sub wave 1.

then after seeing the 1st 5 wave structure down entered a Long trade.
So I had 2 opposing trades. However I exited the Long trade at around 10 pip loss as it went up ( that includes the 20 pip spread for my broker ).

Anyway, I still have my 2 original long trades while nursing the short trade. exited the new long trade for a 10 pip loss.( which could have been in profit by now with that rally on the 5min chart.

I should have maintained as originally planned since the main trend was Bullish. ( just another lesson learned.) Anyway I was still looking for a retrace towards that previous low and we are expecting a bearish main trend soon.

I would describe this as a very crude hedge taht I apply in my trades.

EG
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 18:20 | 显示全部楼层
Dec 5, 2007 4:03am
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Could be Ouch for many there.

Almost included me as I entered at 50% retrace. I should have stuck to my gun and pulled trigger at 78.6 which is more often its wave 2 retrace if not the 86% level.

Whoooowww. That was NASTY. It meant that it was not a wave 2 retrace but looks like a final wave 5 down?

Now back to nursing 3 Long trades. hhhhmmmmmm

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  #1313   
Dec 5, 2007 4:42am
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Yech. Made the same mistake twice tonight. Once again, I didn't pay attention to a news event for GBP. I tried a small long with a modest S/L just BEFORE the news, and again, it was slightly negative for GBP which promptly dropped GU some more and also GJ. I would have GUESSED the news would be below expectations and stayed out of longs at the very least until after the news, had I been paying attention.

Should have gone to bed when I said I was!


Oh well... still a pretty good day overall. G'nite.

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Dec 5, 2007 5:19am
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Ok I got slapped by this beast.

Stopped out on a A LONG TRADE while I manually closed the otehr 2 after it breached that wave 1 end. All for a loss.

No problem. There will be other trades to make. Just have to ensure that account does not get wiped out. Apply MM.

Looks like a sideways movement on the 5min chart which may be a wave 4 consolidation to be followed by another dip for the wave 5.

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Dec 5, 2007 5:44am
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Oh well!!! you win some, you lose some
This fall has forced me to re-evaluate my count. Wave 3, which I originally thought was an extended wave, turns out to be an ordinary Wave 3 without extensions.
However, i think its safe to assume that we are experiencing a double-threes complex correction.
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Dec 5, 2007 1:22pm
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Update post #1287
Now the question is, potential reverse zone 1? or prz 2? first one is stated in the chart, the second one is 222.20-222.00 area
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Dec 5, 2007 2:45pm
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good work daytek
you won the battle, but the war is yet on
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Dec 6, 2007 5:15am
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analyses
I updated analyses for USD/JPY and for GBP/JPY at:

http://www.trading-fx.si/fx/sloanaliza.htm

nice trading, Grega

  #1319   
Dec 6, 2007 2:34pm
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Trying a new count (thanx to daytek)
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Dec 7, 2007 5:10am
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Not sure what this wave is yet
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Dec 7, 2007 10:47am
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Looks like the wave "a" or "C" is over...we had a throwover which should be good enough to confirm it
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Dec 7, 2007 11:32am
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Hello mr foster, i agree with you, we need further confirmation to actually see what we are trading right here.
I have 2 possible scenarios.
one is in red and the other is in blue.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 18:22 | 显示全部楼层
Dec 13, 2007 2:47pm
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I have been experimenting on the EURUSD lately and here is what I have for now.

Wave A down from 1.4966 was shown to be in 3 waves which I am now inclined to follow. Since A was in 3 waves, then B is expected to be a Flat, Expanded FLAT or a Triangle.

In initially I was thinking that this Wave B (Purple) would be a triangle. But now I am inclined to believe that it would be a Flat or expanded flat.

Then let us dissect the Purple wave B structure. sub wave A green of this wave B purp[le is again in 3 waves. So I would look for a triangle or a FLAT or expanded flat for the sub wave B Green.

But sub wave B green looks more like an expanded flat now waiting to finish the wave 4 up going to the 38.2% retracement @ 1.4639 or towards the 50% retracement @ 1.4658. Higher than 50% or 1.4658 does not seem possible as this would overlap with the wave 1 down. Sometimes though, it is possible that wave 4 retraces only 23.6% of wave 3 So wave 4 may end @ 1.4616 or before reaching 1.4639 which is the 38.2% retracement of wave 3.

So after this retracement, I am looking at EURUSD coming down again towards 1.4565 which is the 161.8% wave C projection for an expanded flat. If it goes lower than 1.4565, then it exceeds what seems to be the maximum wave C projection of an expaned flat, so this wave count will need to be re assessed if ever.

Then I would look forward to seeing EURUSD rally toward 1.4966 to develp wave C green and complete the Wave B Purple to finish the Wave B of a FLAT corrective wave.

However, there is still that p[ossibility that we may see new highs and still be in a wave B purple of this corrective wave if this develops into an expanded FLAT overall Wave 4.

So for the Waver B purple targets, the following levels would be watched:
1.4966 Previous high
1.5087 @ 127.6%
1.5132 @ 138.2% or maybe still towards
1.5238 @ 161.8% extention

All of the above are assumptions I am making trying to use as many EW tools I think there is available to see or more like preparing myself of possible scenarios EURUSD will probably take.

I do not profess that this is what is going to happen. These are merely assumptions and I welcome any criticism if there is any flaw in my applying EW rules and guidelines in drawing these probabilities.

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Dec 13, 2007 4:45pm
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update on EURUSD

Also, Price has been banging on the 15min 34ema which coincides with the median of a downward channel also on the 15min chart.

Let us see if this will continue to move down now .

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Dec 13, 2007 5:32pm
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watching 38.2 otherwise the 50% level.
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Dec 13, 2007 11:04pm
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Usd/Yen
This is Mid-Term view of what may be occurring :

Price is now fooling around with this 50 % RETRACEMENT LINE ..........
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This is only a Probability !................It is Not Cast in Stone........
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Dec 14, 2007 1:19am
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EURUSD
Price has formed :

a triangle on the 5min chart.
a semblance of a harmonic oattern on the 5min, 15min and 39min chart
a potential bearish pin bar on the 1hour chart

Price has also pierced thru the Daily Pivot at 1.4644

Weekly Pivot is @ 1.4650
while Monthly Pivot is @ 1.4666

note that we are in a wave 4 up I believe of the wave c down of an extended FLAT wave b of the bigger wave B of this Wave 4 on the 4hr chart.

Looking at the 1 min chart, # up to 4 waves are finished after the formation of a triangle. This could be the end of this wave 4 up @ 1.4643 or final wave 5 may still extend up to 1.4659 which is the end of wave 1 of the same degree as this wave 4.

If price goes higher than 1.4659, then most likely we have found our sub wave b bottom at 1.4577 and this movew going up is actually part of the wave C of the Bigger wave B going up.

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Dec 14, 2007 2:00am
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EURUSD update

1min up to 1hr stochastics over bought.

potential for a bearish pinbar on the 15min chart

momentum and CCI also at over bought level on 15 min chart.

These are all potentials. Must ensure that price does not go higher than 1.4659.

will wait for 4 waves down to form then a pull back UP towards 1.4654 before entering a short.

while a breach of 1.4659 will put me on a spot where I will watch price go up first then will enter a Long trade when it retraces down. on the 5min chart

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Dec 14, 2007 2:07am
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I actually have entered a short trade @ an MT4 equivalent of 1.4650 which is 9 pips away from what this wave 4 should be as a limit.

SL is at 1.4670 to give room for a spike instead of 1.4659

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Dec 14, 2007 2:13am
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this could be looking good for our Short trade now

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Dec 14, 2007 2:22am
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Classic examples I would say.
of forecasting wave potentials based on EW Rules and Guidelines

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Dec 14, 2007 4:03am
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here is the 4 hour chart with that potential.

Could be a contracting symmetrical triangle or a contracting barrier triangle. Either of the 2, will be followed with a break to the downside.

The other option is a FLAT corrective triangle that goes up towards previous high at 1.4966 if a regular flat . Otherwise, it may be an expanded flat that travels up and makes new High.

EG


PS. I am favoring a Triangle Big wave b on this 4hour chart.
Previous wave 2 of the same degree as this wave 4 on the 4hour hour chart was a complex sideways expanding corrective wave.

wave 4 therefore is expected to be a Zigzag.
Wave A of this wave 4 was a 3 wave structure
Therefore Wave B is exoected to be FLAT or a Triangle.
If Wave B is a FLAT or an expanded FLAT, then price goesup towards the origin of Big Wave A to end Big Wave B.

In that case , I do not see the possibility of a Zigzag Wave 4.

So given that forecasting scenario, I am more inclined to see this Big Wave B develop into a triangle so that The whole of Wave 4 will be able to form the expected Zigzag Corrective Wave .

Yes this is like trying to just stick to the guidelines and some rules without noting fundamentals and technicals. But let us see how this turns out.

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Dec 14, 2007 4:43am
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another scenario on chart

incidentally, price hits Daily 5sma @ 1.4561.

watching potential levels where price could turn around for a retracement:

1.4546 Daily Support 2
1.4480 61.8% projection from the previous days Range
1.4486 is Daily Support 3
1.4408 could be the extrem which is the Weekly Support 2

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Dec 18, 2007 4:58pm
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jus wondering if i've got hold of the right EW counts for this huge corrective pattern
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Dec 19, 2007 11:18am
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money and Kevin

Attached is my count for GBPJPY

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Dec 19, 2007 6:00pm
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Other views with EW and Harmonic Patterns

Potential Bullish Bat on the 1 hr TF.

MACD Divergence on the 15min chart. My EW indicates that we may have wave 5 end for the Sub wave c of a wave B.


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Dec 19, 2007 6:27pm
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note that this is on 5min chart.

an expanding triangle for wave a or 1.

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update for a possible ew count revision based on new development.

225.95 may just be the end of wave 3 down.

potentially developing a wave 4 up. wave 2 being what looks to me as a sideways correction, I would be watching wave 4 develop into a sharp zigzag.

There is always a possibiolity that wave 4 can end on the 23.6% retrace when the main trend is strong .

1st TP would be @ 38.2% retracement @ 227.14 which is also the end of previous wave 1 to prevent overlap between wave 4 and wave 1 or 2.

a possible bounce may be observed when price hits the daily Pivot @ 226.86

I will not discount the possibility of price going up to the Weekly Pivot @ 227.77 which is just a little above the following MAs
15min 240 ema
15min 365 ema
4hr 5sma

incidentally while weekly pivot is @ 227.86, the 61.8% retracement of wave 3 is @ 227.87 BUT this level if price will reach will show an overlap between wave 1 and wave 4.

50% retrace level will have a better chance which is at 227.51 ( if you disregard the slight overlap between wave 1 and wave 4 due to the spike at wave 1 end.

if that pans out for wave 4..... then I would look towards the 225.40 level for potential end of wave 5.

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Dec 19, 2007 8:47pm
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50 ema and the 34ema on the 15 min chart seemed to have formed a barrier for price to go up and has only allowed price to retrace by 23.6% up of wave 3.

and has resulted to a formation of a triangle on the 15min and 30min chart.

The way I look at it now is that we will see price complete the 5 zigzag waves in side the triangle then breakout to the down side and finish off the wave 5 down before bouncing up.

Poor data performance on the Japanese trade balance as not helped gbpjpy to shoot up for that retracement.

Anyway, evrything still seems within the EW guideline so I will maintain this view for now.

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Dec 20, 2007 8:12pm
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I apologize for posting that GBPUSD chart earlier which showed a potential Pinbar on my 4hour chart. I checked other platforms and did not see the same . So I thought it best to remove that post so as not to give false hope for those with current long trades suffering heavy drawdowns.

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Dec 20, 2007 8:46pm
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Merry Christamas To Everyone
Attached is my EW Chart for the 4 hour Timeframe together with the Pivot and the Support and Resistance Levels and Trendlines.

I hope these chart will help someone.

EG

PS.

I am still Bullish Bias but like they say "currently bleeding RED" with my position.

Based on my ew counts, there is still a poterntial that wave 5 is not finished And for price to still go down to FE 261.8 @ 222.43 or the weekly S2 @ 222.31. or to the Daily S2 or Support 3. So currently really bleeding with my position.

But a possible retracement for a wave 4, if wave 5 is not yet finished is possible. But that would mean price will have to go above the daily pivot at 224.83

The chart attached just show possible scenarios and do not recommend any particular trade.

Anybody is free to comment on it as it includes both the EW Counts and some technical stuff which I hope others may find either useful or they can help pinpoint areas which I may not be noticing the implications of.

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Dec 20, 2007 9:41pm
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Attached chart for GBPJPY shows 2 possible counts

Bullish a5_bz_c5_31
Bearish 1_2_3_4? Deep Pink

Price has Breached the Daily Pivot level on the 4hour chart. But we need a candle to open and close above this Level to have higher confidence of a Bullish trend.

But it also shows price nearly hitting the 23.6% retracement level for Wave 3.

Very much like yesterday. so let us watchand hopefully be able to do something for these long trades I still have.

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Dec 20, 2007 9:48pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by el grande
Attached is my EW Chart for the 4 hour Timeframe together with the Pivot and the Support and Resistance Levels and Trendlines.

I hope these chart will help someone.

EG

PS.

I am still Bullish Bias but like they say "currently bleeding RED" with my position.

Based on my ew counts, there is still a poterntial that wave 5 is not finished And for price to still go down to FE 261.8 @ 222.43 or the weekly S2 @ 222.31. or to the Daily S2 or Support 3. So currently really bleeding with my position.

But a possible retracement for a wave 4, if wave 5 is not yet finished is possible. But that would mean price will have to go above the daily pivot at 224.83

The chart attached just show possible scenarios and do not recommend any particular trade.

Anybody is free to comment on it as it includes both the EW Counts and some technical stuff which I hope others may find either useful or they can help pinpoint areas which I may not be noticing the implications of.

EG



Hi EG,

I fell on the same trap as you did, what a painful day trying to long.
Todays low opened the "doors" to a possible wave 5 so that the current low will be 3 and all this correction was a wave 4..which looks very attractive because the last week really looks like the type of correction that forms waves 4, Slow and painful.

On the other hand this looks as a B so that the C should be a nice move upwards...Today's low was right on the Warning line of my fork, so a retrace is due.

My plan is to see how the retracement develops, see if this was a bitchy b wave that guppy loves or if this was the first leg of the next wave.

PS:Charts are coming soon.

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Dec 20, 2007 9:58pm
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Dec 20, 2007 10:42pm
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Hey Daytek.

Thank you for posting your chart.

Attached is my 5min chart.

Started to hedge my long trade now by 4 out of 7 parts.

if this turns out as a wave 2 down now as in the chart , then I can exit my hedge. it not, then I will let it ride.

Stochastics levels on the lower TFs is way over bought but the 4hour stochs is starting to cross back the 20 level.

So I am basically biased to seeing this as wave 2 then it continues with the 4 hour new upward trend.

Whew..... Starting to cross my fingers and what ever I could still cross here

EG
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Dec 20, 2007 10:51pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by daytek
Chart

Hey..

How do you get those additional or baby median lines on your Andrews Pitchfork?

Those Andrews Pitchfork set ups do help a lot. thank you for bring that up and posting your chart.

EG
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Dec 21, 2007 12:07am
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15min chart

Price is sitting on the confluence of 34ema, 50ema and 62 ema ( 224.60) right below the Daily Pivot which 15min candle pierced earlier at 224.85

Took out all my edge at total - 8pips without waiting for this potential wave down to finish c=a for a sub wave b of the potential wave 4 up.

that was because price was sitting right there at the confluence of 3 emas below the DP.

Now it has touched the 224.55 which gives a c=a for the sub wave b

It is more likely now that I will sit and wait for price to go down then up again to complete a potential wave 4 UP.

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Dec 21, 2007 12:24am
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Bullish engulfing candle formed on the 4hr chart.

Price is still struggling to get past the 15min 100sma (224.74) then stay above the Daily Pivot of 224.85
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Dec 21, 2007 1:07am
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EURUSD
Here is my current view on the EURUSD EW Wave Count.

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Dec 21, 2007 3:17am
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GBPJPY
Price has been attacking the Daily Pivot Level on the 15min chart.

Looks like it failed again.

Looking at the 15min chart again, wave 2 seemed to have developed sideways and the 4hour Stochs just reached toward the 50 level from the oversold levels. Wave 4 normally kisses the 80 level from below on a Bearish main trend. That is if we are indeed in a 12345 wave down from 230.31

Right now 4 hour stochs is just crossing back into the trade zone at the 20 Level.

Things to ponder on:

the move up from 223.56 up to 225.09 could be classified in 2 ways.

A 3 wave abc of an A wave of a Zigzag ABC going up as wave 4 provided the move down from 225.09 does retrace more than 50% of the Wave A to have a zigzag wave up.

Or it can be classified as a 5 wave A which makes as look for a wave B that is either a Flat or a Triangle . then a C= A later


Next thing to ponder on:

If price from 225.09 retraces towards the previous low by 61.8% or 78.6%, chances are move from 230.31 down to 223.56 was wave abc of a Zigzag wave c of Wave B.

and that the 61.8-78.6% retracement down from 225.09 is a wave 2.


I would personally like to see GBPJPY retrace down to the 61.8-78.6% level so that we have better chances of seeing price reach the down ward trendline on the 4hr chart.

But if it persists to attack the Daily pivot level now and succeed to close and open above that level.....

then chances are , price will be back on the bear move much faster.

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Dec 21, 2007 6:42am
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gbp-jpy
Hello everyone.

and this is my long term view for gbp/jpy in new year......analyses for other pairs you can check here.




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Dec 21, 2007 7:03am
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Glad to see you posting your chart here again money.

Attached is my current view on the 4hour chart.

Still no conclusive idea if we are in a wave C up to finish wave 2 in my count or a wave 4 zizag going up.

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Dec 21, 2007 7:30am
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as price goes up and stayed above Daily Pivot level,

then w3 is just a bit longer than w1, then I am inclined to see w5 to be 161.8% of the price from w1 to w3 for this wave 5.

161.8% FE is at 226.53 which is just above the 50% retracement of wave 3 and still way below the end of wave 1. Incidentally , this is also at the Daily resistance 2 level which commonly is a Strong resistance level.

I will be looking at starting my hedge for my previous Long trades at this level.

Currently holding 7 parts which I might be able to exit 2 at a profit at this level. That leaves me with 5 more to hedge.

I will see how things go. but will most likely hedge 2 from the 161.8% extention level.

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Dec 21, 2007 11:03am
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Possible throwover to end the ending diagonal wave 5 on the 5min chart of GBPJPY.

Then a resumption of the move down to finish off the wave 5 of wave 3 down?

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Dec 21, 2007 12:17pm
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I did not get to see the completion of an ending diagonal wave 5.

Instead, I got what seems to be an expanding barrier triangle. It is possible that there is still a small move down then another thrust to the upside to touch the upper side of this expanding triangle.

But right now, I have already exited 3 parts long trade with minimal loss while I am currently holding 4parts of the old Long trades and another 4 parts Short trades which actually were placed abit too early at 225.28 and 225.47

See you all on Sunday open or our Monday open here in Asia.

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Note the 5 Zigzag waves inside the expanding triangle.

A throwover could bring price up to the Resistance 2 level @ 226.59

Otherwise, it will just hit the upper side of this expanding triangle which also is at the 50% retracement level of wave 3 at 226.31.

On the 15 min chart, price has pierced thru the median line of a shi channel and is almost near the previous days High of 226.42

From here, I wait....

EG
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Dec 21, 2007 1:07pm
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Hey..

How do you get those additional or baby median lines on your Andrews Pitchfork?

Those Andrews Pitchfork set ups do help a lot. thank you for bring that up and posting your chart.

EG



Hello Grande,

those dotted blue lines are simply the middle of the median line and the 2 outside lines, you find the middle and draw the dotted ones parallel.

Dodo

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Dec 21, 2007 3:33pm
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Hello Grande,

those dotted blue lines are simply the middle of the median line and the 2 outside lines, you find the middle and draw the dotted ones parallel.

Dodo



Noted that daytek. thank you.

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Dec 21, 2007 3:41pm
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I need to revise that wave count I made on GBPJPY.

If price exceeds FE 161.8 @ 226.77, most likely GBPJPY will continue to develop the 5 waves of a Final wave C up for the end of wave 2.

However, if price stays at FE161.8 or lower, then we just finished the wave c @ wave c = wave a 1.618 to finish the zigzag wave 4 up to be followed by a downward move to finish wave 5 down of wave 3.

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Dec 28, 2007 4:52pm
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Happy New Year and Let's ALL Rock and Party

Happy New Year Everyone!!!!!

As we Meet the New Year...... Here are a bunch of Charts I have drawn for a Potential scenario in 2008 for GBPJPY.

There will be some labellings for both Bearish and for Bullish scenarios. Another technique was added to provided some spice and which allowed me to add reason why I have a Potential Bullish scenario for GBPJPY for 2008.

First of all, if you look at the monthly and the weekly charts, we see that GBPJPY is in the following wave counts:
Monthly - Wave C of Wave 4 W4.C
Weekly - Wave 4 of Wave C W4.C.4
Daily - Here is where this pair is potentially in a decveloping Wave 5 up W4.C.5.3

Wave 2 in Wave C of the monthly Wave 4 shows a sideways expannsion.

By the rule of alternation, we expect wave 4 to be a sharp Zigzag. We see that wave 4 has actually made a 3 wave decline as a very sharp zigzag from the 251.07 down to 219.31

And if you examine it, 219.31 is very near the range where the previous sub wave 4 of the Wave 3 of same degree is located. It has achieved more than 38.2% retracement of Wave 3 of same degree.

Next is, if this decline is considered as only Wave A or the first leg of a bigger Zigzag wave which could extend down to 50-61.8% retracement of wave 3 of same degree, then I would think that this will deviate from the Rules and Guidelines set for Corrective waves.

In my swirling mind..... I should expect a 5 part structured wave as the 1st leg of the wave A of the wave 4. Instead, I see a 3 part structured wave A. In this case, if we are still expecting a wave B, then if wave A is a Zigzag, then wave B should either be a FLAT or a Triangle. Examining the chart again..... I do not see a FLAT or a Triangle developing.

Besides, if a FLAT is still expected to develop based on the wave A we already have, then it is unlikely that we will see a Zigzag wave for this wave 4.

However, if the ascent from 219.31 to 241.35 is considered as a Triangle B, then I can only be convinced that we GBPJPY is still developing a bigger Zigzag wave if it goes lower than 219.31 which is the previous Low.

But based on what I see on my charts now, I see the Potential of a Bullish Scenario for GBPJPY where the 219.31 can be considered as the end of wave 4.


So, while many or the majority think that GBPJPY is going down the tube towards 210 or lower, I will rock the boat by presenting this Potential BULLISH Scenario for GBPJPY in 2008.

Remember that the Bullish scenario can only be set aside if price goes lower than 219.31

EG
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additional charts
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Dec 30, 2007 11:52pm
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GBPJPY Update
GBPJPY Update

Could this be the Reversal that I am looking for?

Price has not touched the 222.67 level which I was looking for based on the trendline Support and the potential price action on the 0123 Triangulation.

Looking at the EW count, there is a potential to sonsider that last down move to 223.16 as still possibly the bottom of that Wave C down.

It is 49 pips away from my initial target from where I expect to enter my Long trade.

Price may be in a sub wave 1 up now and may still retrace for the sub wave 2 down.


May we all have a profitable trade as we enter Year 2008.

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watch price action.

what may have been end of sub wave 1 resulted in a Pin Bar.

now watching potential support levels as possible turning point to end wave 2 down and proceed with what I think should be wave 3 UP.

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Dissecting the EW Labelling further using Channelling, it looks like the bottom after all has not been in place yet.

And the 222.67 may still be inplay. I am currently out of any trade now and just waiting for what I think is the right time to enter my Long trade.

EG

PS. I would like to remind everyone following this thread not to base their trades on my EW Counts as these are continiuosly understudy. It may give you some idea sometimes but one needs to base their trades on their own analysis of the charts.
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Dec 31, 2007 1:17am
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more scribbled charts....


Note that a throwunder for price to reach 221.95 or 221.69 is still possible to keep the 0123 Triangulation valid as well as the EW Counts.

Using Pivots, I would say that the Weekly S2 @ 221.20 may also still hold as final Support prior to going up. But this does not seem to blend well with my EW Count.

One thing though about how I trade is I still keep an open mind if there are some differences between my EW Count and the other tools I use. It is either I enter with a minimum amount to risk or I wait till I get a better signal.

EG
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Dec 31, 2007 8:37am
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eur_usd
Quote:
Originally Posted by adji04
bro, how about predict eur/usd with elliot for today (daily,horly,4H) because i have position with this currency..
what's sugest for this curr..buy again or stand aside??
and where's another site to predict eur/usd with elliotwave..?
last..which best tools to combine with elliot..
thenkyou...


Hello adji04. Here you can see my Elliott counting on eur-usd. i think that we should see some retricement in this wave 2 in3 waves. I will wait for this retricement, to look for new positions to go long. I would like to see drop down to around 1,4580- 1,4620. i hope that this helps you a little. You can also check our analyses here. But i did not updated them for today. nice trading, Grega
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Jan 1, 2008 6:55pm
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Here are my charts

EG
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Jan 1, 2008 8:08pm
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I most likely need to correct myself and my chart on my EURUSD Analysis.

I realized that I placed wave 2 to be a zigzag and wave 4 to be a Zigzag also which normally should not be the case.

Checking wave 2 again, I think it cannot be a Zigzag but a Sideways expanding corrective wave. I cannot find a reference classifying this pattern so I will classify it as Complex. This will allow me to pursue the idea that wave 4 will be a Zigzag wave.

Therefore if wave 4 is considered as a Zigzag wave, the move down from 1.4747 to 1.4581 may initially be thought of by me as a Zigzag. However when we look at the Potential relationship between what is considered as Wave C and Wave A, we will note that wave "C" is about 300% of wave "A", which I think is not within the Guideline of EW Principle.

So I will much rather consider that as a wave 1 and a wave 3, where now we see wave 3 finished and wave 4 developing to most likely reach 1.4638. Then expecting wave 5 to develop as it goes down again more like a w5=w1 to give more room for the actual Zigzag Big wave 4 @ 1.4563.

Once this Leg A ( 5 wave structure ) is finished, we now refer to the structure of A to lead us to expect what wave B possibly can be. In this case, since wave A is a 5 wave structure, then Wave B is expected to be a FLAT or A Triangle. a FLAT has a 335 structure while a Triangle has a 33333 structure.

Then we will see this pair going down again and lower than the previous low of ( which probably would be around 1.4563 ).

Okay, if I go on with this rambling, and make a sketchy forecast of the potential route of EURUSD using the Guidelines, then here goes....

Leg A finishes at 1.4563 then goes up by 50% ( @ 1.4655 ) developing a FLAT or a Triangle wave B then Falls again to finish wave C as C=100% of A (@ 1.4471) or 161.8% of A (@ 1.4357 ).

Now that is how I see it with my EW Count for EURUSD.


Now to go to the Technical side, to me this wave count fits better now as 4 hour stochastics is just crossing down Level 80. That to me means that Wave 4 is far from over. The Zigzag concept will most likely provide that time to allow it to get oversold and crossback Upwards of the Level 20. Thus the beginning of the actual Wave 5 UP.

I would most likely be setting my Short trade @ 1.4655 now. That is if I see
Price stop at around 1.4563. Better to trade the Wave C down.

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Alternative Count for EURUSD
Here is a much simpler Alternative Count

Note that this is on the 1 hour Chart.

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Jan 1, 2008 10:18pm
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USDJPY
My EW Count for USDJPY.

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Jan 2, 2008 6:38am
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EUR/USD, USD/JPY
hi EG,
i saw that we are watching the same pairs.

EUR/USD
I think that EUR will make new highs in this qauter of the year. We must realize that we are still in very powerful bull counting. I saw that you are waitting this weave 2 to conclude. But i believe that this wave 2 already make his low.But this will be confirm when will trend break high 1,4747. This 2 wave made his low on the ideal support at previous zone of wave IV around 1,4580. This is very strong support, and from here is going up now already for 100 pips. So i believe that we are on the way to the wave 3...

USD/JPY
You are also watching this pair. I saw your monthly chart...This wave 4 that you are waitting it is already done in A_B_C_D_E pattern. But we must realize that there is not always ideal patterns in the market. in this case my wave B did not touch lower line. But we can see that is still very very powerfull patern to make new lows.

We must also consider that pairs EUR/USD and USD/JPY should be going in differnt direcitons.




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This is called a bull flag pattern.....break will be up.....
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I just discovered that I was getting different set ups from 2 MT4 Platforms I was using which may have been confusing me as I was using meta quotes to chart my EW counts while I was using fibo-group for my technical side.

some how they did not match and I just found out why I was having trouble with that running flat wave 4. meta-quote extended down way way low while fibo-group exhibited more of a better set up for a running flat corrective wave 4.

Attached are the 2 charts

For Better RR, I believe it is best to wait for 1.4750 as Tim has suggested. Unless a Bullish candle probably opens and closes above that downward trendline.

Tim, what do you think?

EG
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Jan 3, 2008 12:14am
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Here is how I see EURUSD now.

I now have a bias for the sub wave 4 Bullish Flag Scenario. where sub wave 3 has made a breakout of the Channel and came back into it forming a bullish flag wave 4.

Waiting for a high probability profitable trade set-up for this sub wave 5 of 5.

Now you may ask , why not enter at the bottom of that channel or that rightside of the channel as price bounces of off it?

Wel maybe we can but we have to set a tight stop loss. But it I believe now that the 1.4750 is the best level and the least risky to trade. hhmmm... unless by the rule of wave equality..... w5=w1 when wave 3 is extended. that would make trading a breakout from that level have a higher Risk.

Any one want to share their thoughts on this one?


EG
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Hi Tim..

Does the Breakout from the Bullish Flag also follow the Projection used on the triangle?

in the attached chart, wave 4 tok almost same amount of time to finish as wave 0-3.

If TP projection follows the same method as that for Triangles, then TP should be in the area of 1.4762?

I have set my initial target at 1.4770 which is at Daly R2. Anyway, I will be watching my charts so will be observing the wave development and make my exit decisions accordingly.

EG
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Jan 3, 2008 2:02am
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EURUSD Update
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Jan 3, 2008 2:56am
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Here is what keeps trading hours a bit more colorful than just seeing EW counts, patterns and channels....

Notice how the MAs spread like a Fan as it develops a wave 3. At least that is how I see it.

Thanks to TheWicker for sharing his indicators for for his Trend Follower System
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=40325

EG
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Jan 3, 2008 2:57am
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EURUSD Update
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Jan 3, 2008 4:23am
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EUR/USD
And here is my view for EUR/USD.
i will go long when will break trough my upper trend line. but we must stay under my lower trend line. Other pairs check here




  #1425   
Jan 3, 2008 4:24am
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EURUSD Update
Barrier Triangle

Bullish Flag over extended and Now looks like Wave 4 is forming a big Barrier Triangle.

Watch out for a possible throwunder which could be a False Breakout to the Down side.

Barrier triangles in this form normally are Bullish as the Textbook would say.


Now it makes more good sense why it is best to wait for a breakout at 1.4750.

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Jan 3, 2008 5:21am
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our flag has morphed a little but still very valid...still looking for the break up!
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Jan 3, 2008 7:59am
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a Possibility for EURUSD
just toying on the idea for now. currently out of the market . exited @1.4773

Missed 9 pips of max it went up earlier.

On 15min chart I see 2 pin bars and oscillators are over bought that is why I am thinking that this might just be sub wave 1 of 5 followed by what seems like an expanded FLAT.

if not, then I miss the train . will look for better set ups to trade tomorrow morning.

EG
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Jan 3, 2008 8:06am
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or this could be a better possibility.

Well... I am going to get some much needed sleep tonight. See you all in the morning.

Good Trading to All of you.

EG
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Jan 3, 2008 8:29am
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GBPJPY
I could not resist printing this out before I closed my PC

Price is below Monthly, weekly and Daily Pivot.

I would consider really very Bearish. However, this pair needs to retrace for a correction which I believe is happening now with the sub wave 4 of Wave 3 or C down.

EG
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Jan 3, 2008 8:53am
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another chart

may just be in wave 4 of a 5 wave structure A

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Jan 3, 2008 9:01am
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whew.... I took a peek at EURUSD....

I got out just in time then with my long trade. Now waiting for a nice set up for a new Long Trade.

EG
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Jan 3, 2008 9:15am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Learntocount
here's what I mean...notice divergence on awesome oscillator...wave 5 creates divergence because it is not as strong as wave 3


Hi Tim... I thought you were going to sleep too.....

Anyway, thank you for checking on my charts for EURUSD. Do you mean that the second chart I proposed is the better choice?

Since I have counted 5 waves on the move up and price has not surpassed main wave 3 top at 1.4966, then this must have just beem sub wave 1 of 5 and sub wave 2 of 5 is expected to retrace sub wave 1 by 61.8% which is around 1.4511

Otherwise...... at what level do you expect price to bounce or where would you consider starting to load Long Trades?


EG
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  #1439   
Jan 3, 2008 9:28am
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wave 2
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