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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:13 | 显示全部楼层
Oct 31, 2007 5:45am
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Oct 31, 2007 5:57am
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You see EG i would like, to show you more pictures and forecast, but there is a problem, most of them in russian and may be moderators of the site don't allow to print links

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Oct 31, 2007 12:17pm
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GBPJPY Update

Looks like we have finished wave 3 Up @ 239.53 and entering a retracement down for wave 4.

Most likely at 23.6% down of previous wave 3 @ 238.51 where the Sub wave 4 of wave 3 is at.

Then a continued Trip Up North is expected to cap this whole 5 wave impulse wave up to finish Wave 5 @ Target range of 161.8% of wave 0 to 3 @ 243.12

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Oct 31, 2007 12:27pm
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Here is my basis from the daily chart down to the 1 hour chart.

Looks like a 25 to 50 bps cut is factored in.

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Oct 31, 2007 12:36pm
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15m close up

Interestingly 238.52 is near the 15min 50EMA
4h 5SMA is @ 238.33

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:16 | 显示全部楼层
Oct 31, 2007 12:56pm
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adjusted because of new high
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Oct 31, 2007 1:36pm
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Alternative Count

Spotted this on a different Chart I was working on.

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Oct 31, 2007 2:42pm
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23.6% retracement was hit.

I would now assume that a rate cut of .50 will fuel price increase for this Pair.

That the Plunge it is now in is but a pull back and will eventually be parallel with the Elliott Wave Count.

Meaning after this wave 4 retrace, it will continue going up.

I got stopped out for 75 pips inclusive of 18 pip spread on 1 long trade.
My other short was exited for 230 pip loss.

I Exited all trades. Will see what we have tomorrow for this pair.

Hedged my earlier so basically lost around 200 pips inclusive of 2x18 pipspread NET for the day.

*** Just noting here that Price plunge hit 50EMA 60 and 62 EMA on 15 min charts

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Oct 31, 2007 2:52pm
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Unfortunately, FF Calendar is wrong. The rate cut was 0.25% down to 4.5% Federal Funds rate. The discount rate was also cut 0.25% down to 5%.

Official release: http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsev.../20071031a.htm

So, yes it's a cut which the market had already priced in, pretty much, so you saw a retrace to 238.50 (Hope you did TP??! Good call on target).


It was not, however, a cut of 0.50.

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Oct 31, 2007 3:11pm
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P.S.

That was a risky short (! oops, I said "long" before editing) trade for Wave 4 just before big rate news, but it did play out well.

For the life of me, when I saw a cut of 0.50 on FF web site, I could not fathom why GJ was tanking so far. Yes, I've seen some news announcements which are bullish, and the very first prices spike downwards, but it's very short lived and moves steadily upwards.

Here we had supposedly very bullish news but the market went down???

But then, when I learned it was only 0.25 cut, then while that would ordinarily be bullish also, it had been priced in, and the EW count ruled! It was time for a retrace, and the news was in line with expectations, so while it was volatile, it did go down. But it also makes sense it only hit the first (higher) retrace target, because of course, it is bullish.


Having said that it's bullish... it's very strange to me that UJ and GJ are still more or less tracking each other the same. It seems to me if the draw is as a "carry trade", then the interest differential is what makes it work. The GBP interest is growing higher than the USD rate which would argue that GJ would have more of an upside than UJ. Therefore, so would GU, I guess...

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Oct 31, 2007 4:00pm
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Originally Posted by pips4life
P.S.

That was a risky short (! oops, I said "long" before editing) trade for Wave 4 just before big rate news, but it did play out well.

*** Actually I placed 2 opposite trades during the early asian session as an experiment after calculating potential top and available capital to protect acount for SL. But I exited my 2 Long trades early and got stuck waiting for a retracment for a new Long trade. That is why the short trade loss ballooned to about 200 pip loss.

I did not add a short trade to trade that wave 4. but instead placed a Long trade. I made a mistake though about my SL as it was too tight for this pair PLUS I should have noted the 23.6% potential retracement.

For the life of me, when I saw a cut of 0.50 on FF web site, I could not fathom why GJ was tanking so far. Yes, I've seen some news announcements which are bullish, and the very first prices spike downwards, but it's very short lived and moves steadily upwards.

Here we had supposedly very bullish news but the market went down???

*** I got into the mindset that NEWS does not really influence the long term trend of EW Counts. It could expand a wave develpment though and take longer to develop. But eventually it gets back in line with the EW Count. That is why I was still thinking Bullish on this pair even before the news.

Honestly though , it helped reading that majority of the traders I was scanning were expecting a rate cut except that they were not unanimous as to the actual rate cut.

But then, when I learned it was only 0.25 cut, then while that would ordinarily be bullish also, it had been priced in, and the EW count ruled! It was time for a retrace, and the news was in line with expectations, so while it was volatile, it did go down. But it also makes sense it only hit the first (higher) retrace target, because of course, it is bullish.


Having said that it's bullish... it's very strange to me that UJ and GJ are still more or less tracking each other the same. It seems to me if the draw is as a "carry trade", then the interest differential is what makes it work. The GBP interest is growing higher than the USD rate which would argue that GJ would have more of an upside than UJ. Therefore, so would GU, I guess...



Still toying with my charts.

Attaching a chart with some labels which are not to be taken as EW Count. I would prefer to call it Pulse Chart.. still experimenting on it.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:17 | 显示全部楼层
Oct 31, 2007 4:04pm
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Treandlines
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Oct 31, 2007 4:47pm
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Adjusting my wave count on the 15min chart

247.27 as Target for end of Wave 3 UP.

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Oct 31, 2007 4:54pm
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Hourly candle closing above Daily Trendline Orange.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:18 | 显示全部楼层
Oct 31, 2007 9:22pm
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EW Projections/Targets Alongside Targets Using other systems/tools.

Another candle opening and closing above that downward Orange Daily broken trendline will help boost validity of an upward move for this currency pair IMHO.

Already on the 4hr chart, Candles are consolidating on and within this trendline.

Other factors to note:

Daily R3 @ 242.20.
Weekly R3 @ 242.24
Murrey Math Level (+2/8) @242.18 Time to Sell
61.8% Level @ 242.14 ( above Previous day's High incase of a breakout )

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Oct 31, 2007 9:44pm
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Potential Retracement:

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Nov 1, 2007 1:11am
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Has not fallen to where Lower median Line and Daily Downtrendline intersect.

However it has met criteria for 50% retracement of wave 3 and a corrective wave leg measurement/ relationship of C = A

My view now is that it will start going up again.
Also note that Stochastics for 1min, 5min and 15min and 30min have turned up from over sold level.

Went thru 1hr and 4 hour %SMA including 50 EMA on 15min chart also 62 EMA on 15min Chart

failed to reach 100MA @ 239.11 on 15 min chart then the Weekly R2 and the Daily Pivot @ 239.03

15min stoch oversold reading could still imply a retracement then a continuing move down towards 237.81 (Daily S1)
Next is the 240 EMA on 15min chart
Daily 5 SMA and Murrey Math Strong Support and Resistance Level At 237.50
then the weekly 5SMA @ 237.22
and the Monthly Pivot @ 236.96

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Nov 1, 2007 5:58am
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Adjusted

Wave 5 end

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Nov 1, 2007 6:21am
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Count variations
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:19 | 显示全部楼层
Nov 1, 2007 11:48am
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carforum and Pips4life..


will reply to you a little later.

Chart is offered as an alternative count.

When my charts get too busy, I open up a clean chart and start labelling from there again.

Helps me get a clean view again and prevents me from getting distracted by indicators.

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Assuming my higher TF EW Count is correct, red 33 is ultimate objective when Aqua Wave 4 finishes a corrective Flat wave.

Notice that Aqua wave 2 is a sharp Zigzag wave. We therefore assume that Aqua Wave 4 will be a complex Wave.

Now I watch the charts as the wave develops. Oftern monitoring the lower TFs to see how the Higher TFs evolve.

I could be right or I could be wrong. What is important to me is I will be able to determine where I made a wrong turn or a wrong count and I should be ready with alternative counts once a current count fails.

This part of having readily available alternative counts does not happen often enough as this definitely takes a lot of my time.

But I am working on being able to assess wave counts faster than I used too.

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Thanks
Thanks sir for the information, i really appreciate that sir. moreso, i still need were to get elliotwaze software. I will go to link to you gave me to study the elliot wazes. Thanks again for the great work.
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Hey Victor.

Better remove your email address on your post otherwise you will probably be swamped with spam when spammers pick up your address here.

If you want to learn EW, you can do a web search with the topic "Elliott Wave" or you can first try out http://www.elliottwave.com

This is one of the best places to get your EW education started. They have lots of free material. but getting hold of the actual book "Elliott Wave Principle, Key to Market Behavior" would be a plus.

You can also check out the threads by fixme1too and itme here in forexfactory. I am sure you will be able to pick up a lot from them too.

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Nov 1, 2007 2:39pm
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Possible Wave B Up of a flat corrective wave.

I have assumed that this is a wave 4 and that it is a sideways corrective wave and not a Simple Sharp Corrective wave normally associated with Zigzags.

So if this is a corrective wave, then wave A ( first leg of a corrective Flat has to subdivide into 3 waves which we can see labelled on the 2nd chart. It does not necessarily have to be a C = A. But normally C > A

This is followed by a B wave which subdivides into 3 waves also where C= A.
As you will see in the chart I have identified end of B wabve as 241.04

Then we should see this price going back south and lower than previous 237.92

Here we can have a C = A for this big A and C.

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Nov 1, 2007 3:23pm
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Looks like I got a Bomber here.

This is what I think is a failure to recognize wave size and proportion.

This could possibly be the completeion of the zigzag of the sub wave b inside the Big B wave Up. where C = A

EG

update : or maybe not . Unless price goes lower than 238.78 which it is at that level now. No break means wave 2 then UP. with break then it is finishing the wave C down of the zigzag sub wave b of the Big B wave.
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Nov 1, 2007 3:38pm
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Price continued downward but stopped and bounced on the 240 EMA on 15min chart.

checking the 1 min chart, I think I see 5 wave subdivision. this could the the reversal to the Upside with C just a little over 61.8 % of A.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:23 | 显示全部楼层
Nov 1, 2007 3:58pm
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Price has continued to come down.

Let us see if this stops at the FE 100.0 @ 238.11

Then a Gartley Develops in the 15min chart

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Nov 1, 2007 4:02pm
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incidentally, Daily S1 is @ 237.81

Candle lowest part for now is at 237.97. almost there

Daily 5 SMA is @ 237.21
Weekly 5 SMA is @ 236.95
Daily S2 is @ 237.05
Monthly Pivot @ 236.96

Let us ee if price breaks thru that thick layer of Support


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Nov 1, 2007 8:04pm
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Price has continued to go Down probably reaching end of wave 34 red level @ 235.22 to fit into a wave 4 Guideline.

Although Maximum potential dip of a wave 4 is till the end of wave 1 mocassin @ 234.33

Next we have to watch how wave 4 develops. Looking at the 1 hour chart, we can see an unfinished Zigzag wave.

Now I am thinking that if I was watching this 1 hour chart last night when the big drop happennedI should have seen this better and realized how it was supposed to develop based on EW Rules.

I was looking for a FLAT Corrective wave.

I knew that Leg A of a flat corrective wave was supposed to divide into 3 waves.

Instead of trying to find those 3 waves or insist on making that first leg down fit into a 3 wave structures, I should remember to rely more on at least the 1hr or the 4 hour charts when verifying wave counts and structure as imoportant as this.

Now on a 1 hour chart, it would seem that leg A and Leg B of a Zigzag wave have been finished. we need to have this zigzag wave as our Leg A of the flat corrective wave of this wave 4 Mocassin.

Since we now have the wave A and B points, we now draw the Fib Extention tool to Project the C=A Form

Our targets would then be as follows
FE 100.0 @ 236.58 C=A
FE 127.6 @ 235.59
FE 161.8 @ 234.36 C = A x 1.618

Watch your Oscillators. Check for oversold levels.

A negative Divergence found in a lower time frome could signal as a heads up that a reversal in this smaller time frame which would represent Peaks and Dips of the sub waves to complete this wave 4 may show.

Therefore, combining all these information plus what else you see on your charts, one will have a more or less subjective opinion on whether or not a reversal has began.

Note that if a wave wave impulse or motive wave has began, it is best advised to wait for the 1st 5 waves to finish representing the 1st sub wave of the wave 5 up and also wait for the pullback or reetrace representing sub wave 2.

It is best advised that A trader trades the Wave 3 and the wave C.

The pull back should have the signs of being a wave 2 to maximize profits.



hhhhhhmmmmm.... very easy to say

Admittedly..... I have a long way to go still until I can fully implement this in my trading strategy and planning.

Going back to this trade, we would then expect now to continue going down until price reaches 236.58 and maybe lower towards 235.59 then see it go up again towards 241.35 ( trying to re visit a previous high ).

It is possible for this to go higher than 241.35 resulting in an Irregular or expanded flat corrective wave which would be toward 242.48 and 243.17.

Then expect price to go down again.
- if we have an irregular flat, then C wave should be 161.8% of A
- if we have a regular flat corrective wave, then wave C will just slightly go lower than wave A which would basically mean we have C= A.

Let us ee how this Pair evolves in the next days or weeks.

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Nov 1, 2007 8:27pm
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A shot at forecasting.

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Nov 1, 2007 8:59pm
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Ranging Friday or is it a Reversal?

Scenarios on the chart

If Price does not go lower than 237.60 and this retracement is around 61.8 to 100% retracement to 237.60 but no lower than this..... then we are in for a Reversal and will likely be on our way up towards 241-242.

However, if price goes lower than 237.60 then we are still in a ranging expanding wave 4.

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Nov 1, 2007 9:39pm
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the other side of the scenario and why.

currently having a bias for the continued move down based on other systems.

Right now that I know I am not that good with this EW Counts yet, I still employ or supplement my analysis with various tools for confirmation.


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Nov 1, 2007 10:02pm
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Reversal now due to overlap with Wave 1 if up move was Wave 4.

Unless a bigger wave 3 down is in the making.

Now let us see if price goes lower than 238.52 which is the wave 1 high if this is a Reversal.


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Nov 1, 2007 10:25pm
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But now as I look at my chart....

It is possibly true that we are now in an uptrend on our way to revisiting yesterday's high or higher.

But the worrisome thing for me now is that it looks like this is just a small wave 4 in a sub wave 1 going up. Provided it does not overlap now at the Magenta line.

This means that we may see this pair going up most likely encounter a bounce down as it touches the Daily Pivot and weekly R 2 @ 239.03.

Retracing its steps toward 237.63, with a likelihood of at least 61.8% up to 78.6% of sub wave 1.

Then it will be on its way up again.

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Nov 1, 2007 10:42pm
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Note that this is a 1 min chart.

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Nov 1, 2007 11:02pm
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Not really sure how to interpret the price movement on the chart now.

Leg 1 which is the Wave A of the flat corrective wave has a structure ( if it does not go lower than 237.60 anymore) of a Zigzag where C is just a little over 61.8% of A.

Should this be interpreted as a very strong Bullish tendency that Orice did not wait to accomplish a C = A structure for its zigzag leg?

If so, then it is highly likely that we will expect an irregular flat corrective wave. which means that we are also likely to expect price going higher than previous 241.35.

expecting 240.79 up to 241.16

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Nov 1, 2007 11:14pm
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posted the wrong chart earlier

Sorry

EG

PS. Check your 30 minute chart on GBPJPY. There is a PinBar there which should have signalled the reversal. "I think"

We will see.

I did not notice that earlier.
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Nov 2, 2007 1:12am
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Now Price probably consolidating before going down to 78.6% @ 237.90 before reversing.

or till 237.60

But if it goes lower than 237.60, then the EW Count becomes invalid.

Will need to get back to the Drawing board.

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Nov 2, 2007 1:16am
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This is my counting, please tell me if I have done anything wrong!! Thx
But GBP having a Pin Bar on daily, so not sure whether we are in Wave V
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Nov 2, 2007 1:26am
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1st Long Trade @ 238.14 61.8% retracement.

next target is @ 78.6% retracement @ 237.90

if pirce goes lower than 237.60 then will close all long trades opened.

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Nov 2, 2007 1:57am
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How price evolved in relation to what I concluded from my EW Count

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Nov 2, 2007 2:13am
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I can't type and screen capture fast enough... note the FE levels as possible support. (It just broke FE 100 by a little)
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I have enter GU on 1 hr pin bar too... but the target is 239.91
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Nov 2, 2007 5:46am
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EW Rocks


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Nov 2, 2007 7:46am
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Hey money....

Sorry about this delay. I was trading LIVE earlier and was experimenting on riding each wave turn on GBPJPY.

Attached is my proposed count for usdjpy.

Honestly, something is a bit weird with my count on the 4 hour chart waves 1 and 2.

But so far this is what I can come up with.

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Nov 2, 2007 8:43am
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Possible Trendline Resistance.

Yet Matching EW Forecast for end of a wave 3 @ FE 161.8

Entering short trade at @239.70 or 239.88

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Nov 2, 2007 9:00am
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more charts for money

check if these charts and the counts make sense.

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Nov 2, 2007 9:28am
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Just another quick post after a very short night sleep...

I promise you that this is what my M5 Fib projection looked like when I went to sleep. I was too caught up in "history repeats itself" meaning it would go further short when I went to bed... Dumb. It was a classic end of a 4-wave just barely above the top of the previous 1 wave top. Alas, you were absolutely right as to the direction -- LONG!

You can see my Fib projection levels play out amazing well through the completion of first Wave 1-5 ( "(1)" ? ), a retrace A(zigzag),B(flat),C(zigzag) ( altogether a "(2)" ), and now were into the "(3)" wave cycle of 5.

I'm not saying the levels were absolutely perfect, and I may well have adjusted them or made a 2nd projection for the "(3)" wave in progress. But for knowing only a couple of early data points, these level projections were great.

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Price looks like forming a zigzag wave for the wave 2 up which is a retracement of the wave 1 down after over balancing the sub wave 4 of the previous Impulse wave.

will be watching 61.8 , 778.6 and 85% Retracement as Potential re entry points for the Short trade.

Then Target would be C = A or the Following Percentages in relation to wave A down

61.8
100
161.8

See attached chart.

But if price does not go up to the levels I stated, then I will not enter any more trades to roll over the weekend.

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Nov 2, 2007 10:54am
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Re enter based on 1 min chart.

Only if price goes up to 78.6% retracement .

Target FE 100.0


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Nov 2, 2007 11:20am
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Initial 3 wave A Down seemed enough.

However as the wave developed, it now looks like it was just the sub wave "a" for the bigger 3 wave A Down. Making it a doule Zigzag as the firat leg of the Expanded Flat or the Regular Flat Corrective Wave.

Bias choice is FE 100.0 instead of FE 127.6. The latter is within the price territory of wave 2 and overlaps with wave 1. So this cannot be allowed ( referrng to FE 127.6 level )

we will have a better idea if this is expanded or regular once the end of this double zigzag down is established.

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Nov 2, 2007 11:31am
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1min chart

Invalid once Price goes to 238.20 (SL) which is 1 pip right below previous Low or end of what was thought to be wave 1 down.

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Nov 2, 2007 11:33am
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Could I be really right to wait for this retracement?

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Nov 2, 2007 1:48pm
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Nice trades for today.

Patience paid off tonight.

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Awesome analysis! Honestly, I was lost a bit in the count, so I didn't do a whole lot of trading. No matter. If we can nail this EW counting down, there are infinite opportunities to come. I'm going to review the last several days of charts and price action to see how I can anticipate the twists and turns, not just project levels that I'm not really certain will ever get hit.

I look forward to more discussion and then more live trading!

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Nov 3, 2007 2:27am
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GBPJPY Wave Analysis
Note that the Title States Wave Analysis.

This is because I am not confident enough to say that I have followed Fully to the letter ALL of The Elliott Wave Principle Rules.

I have studied EW and various other systems. So my current analysis is a by product of an integrated use of various Systems from Elliott Wave Principles, Fibonacci Levels for Retracement and Extention, Andrew's Pitchfork, Harmonics, Pivot Levels, Channels, Chart Patterns and a whole bunch of Technical Indicators generously by friends and just plain helpful traders in this forum and in others I have been a member of.

What I present in this post should not be taken as the PERFECT WAVE Count. Believe me, this is still far from it. But why do I post these charts? It is because I want to share what I have come up with hopefully to get other traders who know Elliott Wave Principles better than I do to help me out with my wave counts.

I am not one to challenge somebody to just give me their wave counts without even trying to first present to them my own wave counts. I want to show the GURUS that I have exerted an effort to study this and work on my own charts before I ask for their help.

I will not trump and trash my way around the room saying "I have my own wave counts but let me see your wave count first " .....

So below are the current wave counts on my charts. Ioften start with my monthly chartthen step by step zoom in on my lower timeframe charts. This way I will know my limits and potential projections for price.

My charts are still far from being the road map to great riches. But I use it as a tool along with other tools plus the ever important Rules of Money Management to trade forex.

The charts will just show the wave counts. Some details explaining why I labelled them as such and their alternatives are found on page 59 of my thread starting on Post # 879.

Should you have any questions, I will try to answer them as best as I can.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:30 | 显示全部楼层
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GBPJPY CHARTS
Charts Continued...

Just a note and a reminder for people viewing these charts....

You will see that I have endevoured to do micro EW counts up to 1 min charts. I find nothing wrong with it but it need to be used with caution.

EW Counting must be done on various Time frames and one needs to keep himself/herself attuned to all possible scenarios at each vlevel or timeframe.

One can actual lose sight of the bigger picture and get stuck in the lower time frame counts like I sometimes do. But it is a challenge I would love to overcome.

EG

PS...
If you want to know more details about my counts and why I labelled them as such..... some explanations are provided on page 59 of my thread and starting on Post #879.
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Nov 3, 2007 2:36am
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If there is something wrong with my wave counts .... I am always willing to listen and admit that I am wrong.

And I would be very glad to start a discussion on Elliott Wave Counting here.

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Nov 3, 2007 4:10am
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follow up post 782.
no change in the view yet.

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w4 finished?
Quote:
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If there is something wrong with my wave counts .... I am always willing to listen and admit that I am wrong.

And I would be very glad to start a discussion on Elliott Wave Counting here.

EG


What if we have NOT finished w4 yet (and also "b")? I would love to see b@240,90 and c@237,20
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:31 | 显示全部楼层
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What if we have NOT finished w4 yet (and also "b")? I would love to see b@240,90 and c@237,20

FxMt...

Last Friday, When price retracedup from 237.61 by 78.6 after I waited patiently and convinced, I entered my short trade convinced that this is still going down and I went to sleep. Seeing it try to go back up again while checking the charts this weekend, then drawing that trendline Pitchfork channel, looks like a downward C is still possible down to 61.8% depending on how far a B this price is still going up.

But, 1m 5m and 15m charts are showing bearish bias. However 30m 1h and 4 hours are bullish bias.

Combinig all these details and stirring them on the wok......

I would say we would still see price going slightly up or probably GAP UP then retrace to fill the GAP for our sub wave 4 then continue on its way UP to finish sub wave 5 of this wave 3 UP towards 245-247. But that actually depends also on how deep this sub wave 4 of the wave 3 up will go down.

The depth of this sub wave 4 has something to do with the probable projection of sub wave 5. I think, the deeper the sub wave 4 will be.... then the longer ( not necessarily higher ) the sub wave 5 will be projected as it would be like trying to go deeper first to gather momentum prior to blasting off (just a thought).

But projection for the end of wave 3 (which is also end of sub wave 5) based on a wave degree of wave 3 is in the area of 245-247.

Will try to post a chart showing this later. Although you can see this projection on post #

If we have a GAP this weekend, this is a sign that we are ei
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Nov 3, 2007 10:07pm
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Here is that chart again from from Post 946 where I explained why I think Price is in the UPTREND Long term. yet we were supposed to experience a retracement last Friday.

I am not afraid to post my 1 minute charts which many look at as FULL of Noise and not worth looking into.

I guess the other gentleman was right. I am deaf as I continue to do micro EW in the lower time frames.. Same rules apply to the lower or the lowest timeframes as what you apply on the higher timeframes.

They are just a lot faster and could sometimes run one down. But it is very challenging. If my MT4 only had the 1 second or 5 second charts, I would do it to that mini micro EW count.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by el grande
FxMt...
Will try to post a chart showing this later. Although you can see this projection on post #

If we have a GAP this weekend, this is a sign that we are ei


Hi EG,

A couple of sentences above you didn't finished. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the possible meaning of a gap.


Also FYI, have you noticed... The peak on Thur 11/1 was 241.34, a mere 12 pips below the previous major peak of 241.46 on January 23, that was certainly some kind of Wave 3 top, because of the big correction that followed. It's just a big resistance level to be aware of.

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Hi EG, I thought I drop a thought on your forum. I attached a chart and wave count for the USD/JPY, which of course the GBP/JPY is just an extension of. The GBP/JPY count I beleive is completing a complex correction right now before the next wave lower to break through the September low of 219.29, in line with the USD/JPY to break through its low of 111.58. I believe the GBP/JPY is being tugged down by the USD/JPY but pushed up by the GBP/USD as it tries to get to 2.1000 ahead of the BOE rate decision Thursday. After the rate decision the GBP/USD should decline heavily, and the GBP/JPY should fall heavily now that it can fall freely with the USD/JPY. The GBP/JPY should fail to make a new high against 231.36, but if it does, the high will be short lived before a reversal on Thursday and wave 3 gets underway to head below 219.29. Here's the 4hr chart on the USD/JPY, where it's similar to the GBP/JPY count:
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pips4life
Hi EG,

A couple of sentences above you didn't finished. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the possible meaning of a gap.


Also FYI, have you noticed... The peak on Thur 11/1 was 241.34, a mere 12 pips below the previous major peak of 241.46 on January 23, that was certainly some kind of Wave 3 top, because of the big correction that followed. It's just a big resistance level to be aware of.



You are a fast one Pips4life to catch that.... I may not be able to cope with your speed. I thought no one would be interested how we can all blend our anajysis with the rest of the chart patterns and technical indicators that abound arounsd us.....

For the Post # ______ I actually decided ( in the middle of my thoughts ) to just post the charts from my previous posts outlining how I expected price to travel) Sorry I left that sentence hanging without referencing to it when I posted the charts in the following posts.

As for the GAP....... it usually signifies that we are in the middle of a wave 3 or nearing a wave 5 end. Another or actually the most important thing about GAPS is that they more often than not need to be filled. There may be exceptions to this, but very very few.

So in this context, I would foresee a slight GAP UP to finish this B wave inside this wave 4, then it would start to come down to finish the C wave down of the wave 4 as you can see in my chart below.

I know that my wave counts going up from 237.61 does not follow the obvious rules of EW. But I am also lost with that so I am looking at chart patterns and higher time frames for potential retracement levels and projection levels.

As I mentioned earlier or in a number of posts before these, since I see wave 2 which is same degree as this wave 4 price is in now as a simple zigzag, then by rule of alternation, I expect wave 4 to be expanding side ways. And when I saw that the 1st leg down of the wave 4 was subdivided into 3 waves, then I further assumed as a guide that we will expect a flat or an expanded corrective wave.

So if first leg of corrective wave is subdivided into 3, then we expect a flat or corrective wave.

If subdivided into 5 waves, then expect a Zigzag

But you also need to watch out for the combinations. That one I still have to figure out....

That is the reason why in an ealier post I mentioned that we would get near previous high of 241.35 as this would be the case if we had a FLAT corrective wave where B ends slightly near the origin of wave A. and the Potential projection of 242.23 up to 242.78 are the limits of a move going up for the wave B of an expanded flat.

Then a C wave should go down again.

I was more bias that were going for that expanded wave as it is also possible that the Bull Trend is too strong that it did not wait for C = A for this Wave A. and was in a hurry to get back to the uptrend going for the extended flat so a higher B.

But then I was watching this wave B develop and I got lost.

Now that I am writing about it .... something tells me that probably the reason I am not getting very clear signals in terms of wave formaton on this wave B up is because I am trying to expect the top of it now when infact, it is probably gearing up for that expanded flat wave on this B wave Up.

I will try to work on the charts again a litlle later.

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My Daily count
Quote:
Originally Posted by el grande
Here is that chart again from from Post 946 where I explained why I think Price is in the UPTREND Long term. yet we were supposed to experience a retracement last Friday.

I am not afraid to post my 1 minute charts which many look at as FULL of Noise and not worth looking into.

I guess the other gentleman was right. I am deaf as I continue to do micro EW in the lower time frames.. Same rules apply to the lower or the lowest timeframes as what you apply on the higher timeframes.

They are just a lot faster and could sometimes run one down. But it is very challenging. If my MT4 only had the 1 second or 5 second charts, I would do it to that mini micro EW count.

EG


Will HS pattern fail? We have a strong upward channel...
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I will still be keeping watch on how the Waves Develop onwards.

If there is any change in direction, I will try to keep this analysis updated.

But I will continue to post charts on a daily basis or when I have the time.

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If you see anything wrong with this post, you are free to correct me.


PS. with reference to wave analysis, i think it would not be a match up. I would stick to my wave analysis which I can interpret at much lower timeframes.

But offhand, if the Head and shoulders was to materialize , then this wave up from 237.60 is probably just the Wave B up of a Corrective wave 4 as initially expected and would be expected to end just below the 241.35 high.

And expected to go down again and possibly breaching the end of wave A slightly lower. See 2nd chart.

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-10 15:33 | 显示全部楼层
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Coincidence?
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Nov 4, 2007 8:35pm
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IS this the AHA for the Day?

Well, it is my Aha for the Day.

I hope we all make good Pips today

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Nov 4, 2007 9:15pm
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other considerations
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30 min and 1 hour stochs are coming down. Attached chart is proposed current wave count and Price direction.

I would wait for 15min stoch to go up prior to entering a short trade.

Or I can just sit this one out and allow my long trade to have this drawdown and wait for my old shorttrade to turn green or cut my losses there.

approximate targets are
237.97
237.38
236.50
235.47
234.18

EG
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Nov 4, 2007 11:04pm
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Cancelled all my Buy Limit Trades because I am leaving this afternoon so I will not be able to watch my charts.

Happy trading everyone.

I am going to miss the Frankfurt and London Open. Too bad.

I would have loved testing the wave counts specially towrd and during that session.

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Nov 5, 2007 12:13am
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still possible. but just watching.

237.46 is 200EMA on 1hour chart
239.07 on the 15min chart

New Hi_Lo range of Previous day is 240.29 - 237.64

Price starting to go and breakout of the 15min Ichimoku cloud on 15min Chart

Bouncing on the 100SMA on15min chart too

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Nov 5, 2007 7:18am
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A Zigzag wave 4 set-up played out from the London session.

Levels to watch now

237.35 FE 161.8 Level from Leg A could be followed by a 38% retracement up then continue down

To Sub wave 5 @ 235.92 FE 261.8 Levbel Internal Swing in the Sub wave C

or possibly 236.50 as C = A from the end of Wave 3 @ 241.35

236.96 Monthly Pivot
236.85 Monthly 5SMA
236.65 Daily Support 3

235.35 Weekly S1
Oscillators are at Oversold levels now till 15 min chart

Bullish Harmonic Pattern on the 1hour chart

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Nov 5, 2007 3:42pm
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Sorry I was not able to join you all for the US session. I was just too tired last night when I came in. (Asia Time)

4am here now. Watch out. this could be almost wave 4 up which is a retracement of the wave 3 down.

So another leg down might be in the offing to finish off this wave 5 down of the wave c down of the wave 4 down.

Then we may continue flying to the moon to finish off the wave 5 UP of the wave 3 up.

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Nov 5, 2007 3:56pm
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Possible price direction now.

Got trapped in the Ichimoku cloud.

Facing resistance at the Weekly Pivot.

Based on a Possible wave count, this is supposed to be a wave 4 up with a maximum retracement towards 238.71

If it goes higher, most likely we are back on the Bull trend and is now on the wave stretch to the top.

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  #1042   
Nov 5, 2007 4:03pm
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Could still go up to 238.65.

Price facing resistance most likely @ 238.65 where 100 SMA and 100EMA for 15min charts converge.

and EW likely targets for Wave 4 based on Fib levels. see new chart details .

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Nov 5, 2007 4:22pm
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Using a higher TF chart.... we can see the waves possibly developing as such seen on this chart from afar.

Those are the probable targets based on different reference points of projections.

We now see our oscillators turning down from over bought levels and price hitting the top edge of a downward channel.

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Nov 5, 2007 6:05pm
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Warning - Do not be misled by my Wave 3 Chart
Warning - Do not be misled by my Wave 3 Chart on GBPJPY

I hope that nobody gets misled by my Wave 3 Chart General Direction for GBPJPY.

Bear in mind that after a Wave 3 comes a Wave 4 which could be a retracement of 38.2% to 50% or even 61.8% of the current wave 3.

So depending on the Wave 3 degree, expect a retracement wave 4 of the same degree based on the percentages above.

We can still make money trading the smaller waves inside this bigger wave degrees.

Do not trade using my charts if you do not understand the rudiments of EW Counting. Retracements could send you pressing your Panic buttons to exit trades prematurely.


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Nov 5, 2007 6:35pm
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Reviewing past charts I posted with regards to analysis of Potential wave turns... I go back to the chart where I was still deciding whether perice was in a sub wave 2 of a wave 5 up or was it stil at a sub wave b of a wave 4 corrective wave.

See chart below.

Then check the chart above this post which should have validated the Bear move . there signs on this 2nd chart to have signalled a Bearish direction.

1. zigzag Wave A down
2. the 3 part sub wave a of wave B
3. the Expanded flat corrective wave of the subwaveb of wave B - (this I think is very rare that you see it fit the expanded wave definition and fib retracement and projections.)
4. the ending diagonal wave for that sub wave c
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Nov 5, 2007 10:55pm
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Wave 2 retracement nullified.

wave 4 not finished yet?

Looking at the 15 min chart now instead of the 5min and we see a potential completion of a triangle.


What are the implications of this triangle:

1. that we are nearing the end of a wave
2. that the next leg down which would now just be the Wave C might follow the C= A Guideline at 61.8, 100 and 161.8

However we also have to take into consideration the limits for this wave 4 retracement down.

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Nov 5, 2007 11:01pm
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238.71 breached

looking at a most likely return to a Bull Trend

EG

also looking at price action as it nears 5Daily SMA and the 240 EMA on the 15min chart.

But oscillators are at over bought levels now
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  #1054   
Nov 5, 2007 11:17pm
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new point of reference for a potential move downwards.

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  #1055   
Nov 5, 2007 11:59pm
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Price has already gone above the 15min Ichimoku cloud and is trying to reach 239.03 athe Murrey Math (4/8 Level) which is a strong Support and Resistance Level.

Aside from this as you can see on the abobe chart and also as somebody else has pointed out There is a downward trendline that price is trying to breach. That trendline starts from Nov 2.

Observe too price action on the 15min chart and you will see that price is forming Ca
ndlesticks which have longer wicks than their bodies which could mean that Buyers are trying to grab the market but are being pushed back by the Bears.

Frankfurt and London Sessions are nearing .

Let us wait which one they favor.

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  #1056   
Nov 6, 2007 12:34am
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I had 2 Long Trades and 2 short trades.

I am letting go of 1 long trade infavor of my 2 short trades now.

Closed a long trade for 50 pips loss which included an 18 pip spread and a bonus 4 pip swap. Net Loss was 50 pips.

maintaining 1 long trade which is at -76 pips now. Will nurse that while staying on my short trades which are both still on the negative too @ -56 and -90.

I prefer or am bias short for now looking at the wave C down of this wave 4 down.. retracement of Wave 3.

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  #1057   
Nov 6, 2007 12:44am
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I may have exited that Long trade a bit early.

But this some how looks good for my other Long trade as a Potential Bearish Gartley is forming on the 15 min chart.

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  #1058   
Nov 6, 2007 2:33am
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hi eg,

This is my count for GJ.... I have entered on pin bar at 237.62 and now considering exit half or exit all of my trades, since I think this is subwave 1 of Wave 5, please see my chart!!!
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Nov 6, 2007 3:58am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carforum
hi eg,

This is my count for GJ.... I have entered on pin bar at 237.62 and now considering exit half or exit all of my trades, since I think this is subwave 1 of Wave 5, please see my chart!!!


Nice going there Carman..

Thank you for sharing your chart with us.

I was working on my charts the past hour and when I checked the 1horuchart, I found that I may need to adjust my counts. Now your charts are more like it. Where we now both have a wave 3 top 241.35

But I still have my doubts as to the finish of our wave 4 down.

My thoughts are that it is still possible for another leg down to finish near a C = A x ( almost 100 ). Price has achieved C = A x 78.6 there abouts if we look at that wave 4 of yours.

BTW, Thank youfor mentioning your Pin Bar Triggers for Entry on the 1 hour. I will see and would most probably be incorporating that in my tool box for trading.

What are those Yellow, Red, Blue and Black Lines on your chart?

EG

PS
a Bearish Harmonic Wave has already reached its maximum formation on the 15 min chart.

Oscillators are really overbought

You just might get your new Pinbar for this hour...
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Nov 6, 2007 4:45am
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Attached is the Chart I posted earlier.

Monday was a downturn instead of up trend since the expanded Flat wave 4 did not materialize.

However, wave 4 seemed to have turned into a more complex wave or into a bigger breath of corrective wave by expanding sideways.

Now I am looking at this going down from 239.59 on my chart most likely towards 235.81 which is the maximum for this wave 4 to dip.

If it goes lower than 235.81, then we are probably back to the Bear trend.

But as it goes down, following levels are to watch out for as levels of resistance:

238.41 - 1hr 100 EMA
238.35 - Weekly and Daily Pivot
236.95 - Monthly Pivot and the Daily S1
235.75 - Daily S2
235.35 - Weekly S1
234.38 - Daily S3

If price were to close now, a bearish engulfing candle will be seen on the 1hour chart hugging a Pin Bar.

Then a Pin Bar is almost forming in the 4hour chart.

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  #1061   
Nov 6, 2007 5:09am
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Price action on the 30min and the 1hour charts.

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Nov 6, 2007 5:56am
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all 5 TF Price action and Fibos

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  #1067   
Nov 6, 2007 6:10am
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Pin Bars

How about these 2 charts Carman?

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  #1068   
Nov 6, 2007 6:25am
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Carman..

Your wave 4 on my chart narrowly missed the 50% retracement of wave 3 by just 1 pip. 50% is at 237.07 and my wave 4 low is at 237.08.

Just 1 pip.

Now whether it it goes more than 50% or not... the fact that it narrowly missed the 50% level...

add the fact that 30min and the 1hour stochs are at over bought levels while the 4hour stoch is still at 62.... for me nothing is still definite.

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Nov 6, 2007 6:35am
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elliot wave analysis
hello EG your analysis of EW is an interesting one.unfortunately for me my knowledge of this theory is a very shallow one,Is there a way you can still ?

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Nov 6, 2007 6:38am
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Carman...

You are probably correct that we are now in Wave 5.

15min chart shows a 4 wave divison with a potential wave 5 nearing completion.

Based on the rule of wave equality, we may have the wave 1 = wave 5 now since wave 3 is 161.8% of Wave 1.

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  #1071   
Nov 6, 2007 6:46am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by el grande
Pin Bars

How about these 2 charts Carman?

EG


I haven't entered at these 2 pins, because I am still waiting for target, but I have close half at 238.89 already..
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  #1072   
Nov 6, 2007 7:05am
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Pls disregard above chart. wrong point of references for the FIB extention tool.

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Nov 6, 2007 7:11am
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Proposed Route incase the Guideline for Wave Equality Plays out.

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  #1074   
Nov 6, 2007 7:13am
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Eg,
We are now in the same count, hope we reach the target soon!!!

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Nov 6, 2007 7:52am
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I find this Interesting
Exploring Elliott Waves Further and Tracking Price Probable Routes.

I hope to get back to this next week or by the end of this week and see how price actually turns out with its route.

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Nov 6, 2007 8:05am
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Must not breach 239.31 to be a valid wave 4.

Then it goes up to 239.75 before coming down for the Wave 4 in the 1 hour chart.

Check your charts how price bounced off that breaching limit so as not to invalidate the wave count.

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  #1077   
Nov 6, 2007 8:38am
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While waiting for this wave 5 on the 15min chart to play out, I tried coming up with a Price Route up to the Daily.

This somehow lines up with my projections from the monthly chart.

As to how long it is expected to play out IF EVER IT DOES..... we will just have to keep riding the waves.

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Nov 6, 2007 11:18am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kenneith
Bro you mean it is going to go up again towards 240?
thanks


there are 2 possible scenarios here.

1. Because we are supposed to be in a wave 4 which normally is a complex or a sideways moving wave as in expanding, then it is likely that price will range till tomorrow ( 239.54 - 238.42 ).

2. Alternatively, we could also be in a new Wave 5 going up towards 240.07 or 240.30.

Do not rely on this for your trades. validate with your own system.

Preferably advised to trade on DEMO account only.

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Nov 6, 2007 11:27am
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Thanks mate. but according to indicators it is supposed to go down, but what do i know? i could be wrong as well.
thanks Quote:
Originally Posted by el grande
there are 2 possible scenarios here.

1. Because we are supposed to be in a wave 4 which normally is a complex or a sideways moving wave as in expanding, then it is likely that price will range till tomorrow ( 239.54 - 238.42 ).

2. Alternatively, we could also be in a new Wave 5 going up towards 240.07 or 240.30.

Do not rely on this for your trades. validate with your own system.

Preferably advised to trade on DEMO account only.

EG




  #1086   
Nov 6, 2007 11:29am
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retrace to 238.53 possibly prior to p[roceeding towards 240.

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Nov 6, 2007 11:41am
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Price Action
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Nov 6, 2007 11:53am
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For as long as it does not go lower than 238.39, next target is wave 33 Yellow @ 242.61.

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Looks like our charts will come thru for us.

Asian Time:
Friday Plunge happened and by Friday night it recovered towards Monday or your Sunday Open.

Asian Monday saw a slight move up during the opening but saw GBPJPY falling for teh rest of the day which went into Asian Tuesday.

As forecasted, Wednesday in Asia will see GBPJPY start to Rally.

If this charts work out and we do see GBPJPY climbing to 242.61, Then I would say Elliott Waves do help us pinpoint potential set-ups for a currency pair.

At least this is how we are seeing it on GBPJPY.

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