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Dec 8, 2008 3:41am
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USDCAD
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Dec 8, 2008 7:50pm
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UsdCHf chart..
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Dec 8, 2008 8:17pm
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UsdJpy chart...
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Dec 8, 2008 8:27pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soso
USCAD.


Good chart soso.

Your chart will be my primary count if the red color trend line not gonna break..
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Dec 8, 2008 11:39pm
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anyone has short term update for GBPUSD?
is it already finished the correction @ 1.5045?

i count the last rally as zigzag, but the c leg only 3 waves.
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Dec 9, 2008 8:51am
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gbp usd
gbp usd
end wave b
confirmation 2 pattern
garrtly & bat

line blue bat
line red garrtly .
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Dec 9, 2008 8:57am
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usd cad
ellito & wolfy
down trend
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Dec 9, 2008 9:37am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saeidhidari
gbp usd
end wave b
confirmation 2 pattern
garrtly & bat

line blue bat
line red garrtly .


It seems to be the end of wave B and looks a very good Gartly as well but would you really go long against such a strong down trend ( lower highs and lower lows in daily /4h and 1h??

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Dec 9, 2008 11:09am
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My cable scenario
Quote:
Originally Posted by bohebolo
anyone has short term update for GBPUSD?
is it already finished the correction @ 1.5045?

i count the last rally as zigzag, but the c leg only 3 waves.





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Dec 9, 2008 1:23pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alex12
It seems to be the end of wave B and looks a very good Gartly as well but would you really go long against such a strong down trend ( lower highs and lower lows in daily /4h and 1h??

OK
END WAVE B
start wave c

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Dec 9, 2008 1:25pm
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nzd usd
nzd usd
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Dec 9, 2008 1:30pm
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usd jpy
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Dec 9, 2008 1:37pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saeidhidari
OK
END WAVE B
start wave c


Well done . you were right.

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Dec 9, 2008 4:26pm
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gbp jpy
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 08:27 | 显示全部楼层
Dec 10, 2008 3:23am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bohebolo
nice call saeid, it bounce from there...
do you have longer term wave count on cable?


ok
gbp usd
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Dec 10, 2008 4:38am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saeidhidari
ok
gbp usd


thanks dude..

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Dec 10, 2008 5:41am
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USDCAD
USDCAD H4.

USDCAD might offer us a chance to position short for the scenario I posted a couple of days ago. If price gets near ~1.279 area I'll look for confirmatory price action to enter short.
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Dec 10, 2008 5:51am
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EURUSD
EURUSD H4.

Guys I know that most of you have bearish counts on EURUSD, for obvious reasons. But I think it is worth to consider bullish alternatives as a lot of people are bearish EURUSD and in these situations many times the market does exactly the opposite.

I'll look for a corrective move towards 1.272 area and if price action allows it I'll get long for 1.34.
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Dec 10, 2008 11:45am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soso
EURUSD H4.

Guys I know that most of you have bearish counts on EURUSD, for obvious reasons. But I think it is worth to consider bullish alternatives as a lot of people are bearish EURUSD and in these situations many times the market does exactly the opposite.

I'll look for a corrective move towards 1.272 area and if price action allows it I'll get long for 1.34.


thanks soso. i had re-evaluated my count this moring and it came out exactly as yours. and now that the swissy is about to reverse, i don't see eu going down any further for now.

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Dec 10, 2008 11:21pm
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My euro and swissie charts
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkimnyc
thanks soso. i had re-evaluated my count this moring and it came out exactly as yours. and now that the swissy is about to reverse, i don't see eu going down any further for now.




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Dec 10, 2008 11:35pm
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Hi bohebolo, I don't think that cable can break 161 fib line, so a good exit might be at the line.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bohebolo
great, at least we are bullish at the moment.
btw, i'm always curious with fibo line that you draw.
why did you put 0 line & 100 line there?

but it quite accurate...


Originally Posted by Rocroy
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Dec 11, 2008 10:50am
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E/U Bearish butterfly confirmed so far (4 hour time frame). We should go down from where we are now (127 fib) or the last leg will extend till 161.8 then down big
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Dec 11, 2008 11:30am
saeidhidari
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USD CAD
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Dec 12, 2008 2:38am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pinchapip
E/U Bearish butterfly confirmed so far (4 hour time frame). We should go down from where we are now (127 fib) or the last leg will extend till 161.8 then down big

Not sure at this point if the up move ended yet, I'd rather see it go till 1.36-1.37 area, there's a lot of confluence in there.
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Dec 12, 2008 2:41am
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USDCAD
USDCAD, H4.

I believe down trend is in danger now. We stopped exactly at c = a and from here I'll look for impulse moves up and wait for retracement to enter the market.

If the current low doesn't hold the next one is at 1.18 area.
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Dec 12, 2008 3:05am
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EURCHF
EURCHF.

Am looking for confirmatory price action to short. It didnt really touch the confluence level so it could still go a bit higher. Unfolding in beautifully clear waves.
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Dec 12, 2008 6:42pm
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EURUSD

Might seem as if it's going higher and higher - I say it won't .. see chart for more. TF: daily
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Dec 13, 2008 5:47pm
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Could this be a Gartly on 4h Gpb/Usd . Shallow or deeper gartly?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 08:35 | 显示全部楼层
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I say higher on the daily outlook.
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Dec 14, 2008 11:56am
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Hello EW friends

Swissy count
ABCDE corrective pattern i suppose.
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Dec 14, 2008 12:51pm
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I see an a-b-c corrective pattern developing on USDCHF. I suppose we are in a wave 1 of wave a.
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Dec 14, 2008 10:13pm
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Quote:
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Hello EW friends

Swissy count
ABCDE corrective pattern i suppose.


nice. that means no new low for eu.

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Dec 14, 2008 10:18pm
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please comment. eur/gbp weekly count.
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Dec 15, 2008 3:41am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pkimnyc
please comment. eur/gbp weekly count.

I too am waiting for a top, preferably around 0.92.
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Dec 15, 2008 10:50am
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Quote:
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I too am waiting for a top, preferably around 0.92.

ah~ thank you, soso.

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Dec 15, 2008 11:20am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saeidhidari
ok
gbp usd


Hi saeid,

it's seem your C target on cable has been reached.
Do you have an update count for short term cable?

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Dec 15, 2008 11:36am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soso
I too am waiting for a top, preferably around 0.92.


I'm expecting 1 more wave UP as w5..

wat you guys think?
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Dec 15, 2008 11:43am
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Hi all,

My usdchf chart,,

Different from 5ysfx view..
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Dec 15, 2008 11:48am
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I don't see your logic behind that USDCHF chart blue bottle. How can you have an abc (CORRECTIVE!) upwards, when it makes one new high after the other.. that is surely a 5 wave move up 1-2-3-4-5 .. now we entering the a-b-c stuff ...

This is what I have.

edit: I just noticed I posted the same chart a couple of posts higher. So to avoid the repost see post #1023
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Dec 15, 2008 11:58am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
Hi all,

My usdchf chart,,

Different from 5ysfx view..


blue, doesn't c wave always subdivided by 5 waves?

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Dec 15, 2008 12:00pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slight
I don't see your logic behind that USDCHF chart blue bottle. How can you have an abc (CORRECTIVE!) upwards, when it makes one new high after the other.. that is surely a 5 wave move up 1-2-3-4-5 .. now we entering the a-b-c stuff ...

This is what I have.

edit: I just noticed I posted the same chart a couple of posts higher. So to avoid the repost see post #1023


i agree with blue. the up move looks to be abc. the start of this wave was abc, it seems.

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Dec 15, 2008 12:11pm
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According to how I count waves it couldn't be just an abc move. Looking at the weekly I would say this upmove was a wave 4 ... and wave 4s structures are hard to determine. However, looking at the daily not being sure about the weekly, I clearly see the perfect setup for a 5 wave move up (see comments on chart).. which is finished now .. and now south south south.
I could be wrong :P
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Dec 15, 2008 1:43pm
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Probably Gartly sell pattern has formed?
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Dec 15, 2008 4:00pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alex12
Probably Gartly sell pattern has formed?

You might be right, but this topic is about Elliott Waves???????

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Dec 15, 2008 4:02pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
I'm expecting 1 more wave UP as w5..

wat you guys think?


Possible BB although I'm not going as down as 15m, my main resistance area is at 0.92 - 0.925 while the top as of today is at 0.902 so a couple of hundred pips short.
But this doesnt mean that wave 5 top is not in. See attached picture, the big momentum bearish bar stopped right on the lower trendline of the channel. If it breaks we might not have a chance for another top.

Looking at EURCHF, this pic and a few posts back, I think we are near the top, if really will be one. EURUSD also touched ret 38% of the whole move down today. If it will be weakness I believe it will be euro weakness against everything else.

So my main strategy is to launch 1st short if the current Outside Bar breaks down (meaning the TL breaks too).
For EURCHF I need an impulsive move down to get in as you can clearly see we are still making higher highs.

One thing, we might go higher without looking back till next year, December is known as profit taking month so if we pierce through the EURCHF and/or EURUSD resistance levels I will stay out of shorts till next year.

Good luck everyone!
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Dec 15, 2008 6:31pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SunTrader
You might be right, but this topic is about Elliott Waves???????

Sorry ,you are right. I realised later and posted it in the appropriate thread which is pattern trading.

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Dec 15, 2008 11:52pm
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EurChf chart..
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Dec 18, 2008 2:31am
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EURCHF & USDCAD
EURCHF: Beautiful unfolding, all trendlines broken at this point so I would expect at least a 50% retracement we didn't see 38% so there's a lot of room to fall. I'll look to add to shorts if we get a decent retracement.

USCAD: I think USDCAD is in a good buying position, IF PA allows it.

P.S. EURGBP made new strong highs so at this point it is off my radar for the time being.
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Dec 18, 2008 3:59am
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EurGbp Chart in 5mins timeframe..

Is it the TOP?
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Dec 18, 2008 8:20am
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USDCAD
It touched the confluence level and reversed.
As long as we dont have new lows I have 2 BUY orders at 1.2 and 1.212 and I am looking for new highs.

Good luck everyone!
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Dec 19, 2008 2:02am
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5mins EurUsd chart
hi all, looks good for short position..
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Dec 19, 2008 2:38am
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EurChf chart
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Dec 19, 2008 2:51am
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Eur Usd chart..

1 of the possibility..
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Dec 19, 2008 2:54am
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My cable chart..

Pls commant/..


Edit: Pls ignore this chart.. wb of W4 counted wrongly.
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Dec 19, 2008 3:02am
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UsdChf chart..
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Dec 19, 2008 3:19am
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Eur/Usd, Gbp/Usd & Usd/Cad
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Dec 19, 2008 3:34am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
UsdChf chart..

i like ur chart
i see end of C around 161.8% or 261.8%
Fasten ur seatbelt
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Dec 19, 2008 3:39am
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Quote:
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i like ur chart
i see end of C around 161.8% or 261.8%
Fasten ur seatbelt



Thanks...

I placed red color trend line as my target
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Dec 19, 2008 4:02am
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AusUsd chart..
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Dec 19, 2008 4:07am
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Quote:
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AusUsd chart..

BB wave 1 longer than 3 ?
could u explain this
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Dec 19, 2008 4:10am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
My cable chart..

Pls commant/..



Hi BB,

your wave b of 4 looks impulsive for me..

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Dec 19, 2008 4:14am
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Quote:
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BB wave 1 longer than 3 ?
could u explain this



I took it as extension 1st wave.. Refer attachement fig 4-5.

I might be wrong too..
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Dec 19, 2008 4:23am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
I took it as extension 1st wave.. Refer attachement fig 4-5.

I might be wrong too..


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Dec 19, 2008 4:26am
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Quote:
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Hi BB,

your wave b of 4 looks impulsive for me..


You are right bro.

I missed something there. Wave B shouldn't be impulsive.

Please ignore my chart, i need to recount it.

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Dec 19, 2008 4:35am
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Continuing http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1046

Both orders activated, and just tighten the first stop a bit. I will try to hold these longer because if this is the start of a wave 3 then we should go at least 100% wave 1.

Good luck everyone.
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Dec 19, 2008 4:41am
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Quote:
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Continuing http://www.forexfactory.com/showpost...postcount=1046

Both orders activated, and just tighten the first stop a bit. I will try to hold these longer because if this is the start of a wave 3 then we should go at least 100% wave 1.

Good luck everyone.


saw that great job bro
amazing how many of us have different trading style but conlusion is most of the times same
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Dec 19, 2008 4:47am
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Quote:
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You are right bro.

I missed something there. Wave B shouldn't be impulsive.

Please ignore my chart, i need to recount it.



my reversed cable count..

Wht you guys think?
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My cable count, where wave c of wB is IM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
My cable chart..

Pls commant/..




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Dec 19, 2008 12:44pm
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Wave 1 can be longer than Wave 3 -

Wave 3 can't be the shortest of W 1/3/5, but Wave 3 can be shorter than either Wave 1 or 5 but not both.
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Dec 20, 2008 4:53am
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EurChf chart..
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Dec 20, 2008 2:34pm
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gbp usd
gbp usd up trend
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Dec 20, 2008 3:09pm
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This is my first post to this site so if I’m in the wrong thread I apologize and please direct me to the newbies thread. I’m new to EW and am wondering what to make of my miscount shown in the chart. What would I call the continuation of the trend after the 5 wave?
Actually thought the count was looking good.




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Extensions
Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanhoe
This is my first post to this site so if I’m in the wrong thread I apologize and please direct me to the newbies thread. I’m new to EW and am wondering what to make of my miscount shown in the chart. What would I call the continuation of the trend after the 5 wave?
Actually thought the count was looking good.


Hi Ivanhoe. Welcome. You are in the right thread.

May I suggest you should study the Elliot Wave Principle - Robert Prechter, or some other reliable source to get the basics down.

The short answer is impulse waves extend so one of either 1, 3, or 5 is at least 1.618 longer than the next longest. Generally, it is wave 3. A good clue is wave 3 extensions channel fairly well - with a slight parabolic incline toward vertical. 1st extensions do not channel well, they spread out like a fan getting larger; while 5th extensions tend to narrow like the Eiffel tower shape.

Extensions are a requirement in my book, subdivisions are optional, the three impulses cannot be about equal to each other, one needs to be longer. And 3 cannot be the shortest or shorter than 2.

The trick is to spot the overlap in the 1, 2 waves, with a smaller i, ii, iii, iv, v extension to complete 3, finished by a final 4, 5. Look to see if wave 3 is short and retraces below the top of wave 1 - an impulse rule.

After many attempts, you can spot extensions real time with good accuracy. Look for 9 wave (or 13) as the impulsive count. In other words, 5 peaks and 4 valleys. If it counts as 3, 7, 11... then it is corrective - likely zig-zags if you count 2, 4, 6 or 8 peaks.

AFTER a 5 wave impulse, you will get a corrective :3 pattern in simple or complex form. Euro/Usd completed a C wave at 1.47, and made a 5 wave move down in 1 or C to 1.38 (in my preferred count).

Blue Bottle posted this chart from Prechters online course a dozen posts ago.

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Dec 21, 2008 8:41am
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e\u
what do u think?
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geppy 1hr count.
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Dec 21, 2008 12:17pm
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good charts hymns..

i guess u r new here, warm welcome to our EW thread..

Are you from Johor, Malaysia?


hello blue bottle,

yeah! new on ur thread . just share my chart.
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guppy 1hr count.

Guppy is a ozzie trader with a MA technique named after him. That is geppy.

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Dec 21, 2008 3:45pm
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Guppy is a ozzie trader with a MA technique named after him. That is geppy.

thanks for the correction.

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Dec 21, 2008 3:55pm
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dow weekly count. looks like we are screwed.
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GbpJpy Monthly Chart.

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EurUsd chart

2 possibilities..
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hi all,

UsdCad daily chart..
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Well, talking about corrections, take a look at Prechter's book on page 153 which has a dow count starting from 1780, and you could say that "we haven't seen nothing yet". Maybe this is the early beginning of a major correction, who knows? But the circumstances for that are slowly building up. Climate change probably has a role as a starter of the correction.

Quote:
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dow weekly count. looks like we are screwed.



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Dec 23, 2008 2:24am
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Euro chart
I expect we have seen the high for the Euro retracement, and should see another 5 large wave impulse as (C) continue lower. I can count the first small 5 waves down now as 1, and perhaps the final v of c wave of 2 is close to complete. That opens the door for a 3rd wave down, one of the best trade setups.



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EurChf chart..
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Dec 23, 2008 10:38am
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chf\jpy
a lot of attention to the chf , what do you think about this count?
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Dec 24, 2008 2:04pm
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have a great holiday guys, and many pips to us in year 2009.

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Dec 24, 2008 9:04pm
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happy holiday to all..
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
hi all,

UsdCad daily chart..



CORRECT me if I am wrong. BUT is this one of those rare instances when a WAVE 2 forms a TRIANGLE?

WAVE 2 I think should end at "c" while "d" and "e" could be wave 3.1 and 3.2 . AT least as far as I can see and if I remember the guidelines. besides, check your oscillator, a triangle on the chart should also show a triangle on the oscillator
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Dec 26, 2008 4:24pm
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trade
Here's a good eliot wave chart.
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Dec 26, 2008 5:34pm
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UsdCad
el grande,

did wave "5" started already or we are still in wave "4" ??

Sixer





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Dec 26, 2008 11:27pm
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el grande,

did wave "5" started already or we are still in wave "4" ??

Sixer




IMHO I think USDCAD is still in a wave 4 of a wave 3 or possibly forming a BARRIER TRIANGLE or a FLAT Triangle on the DAILY CHART. THAT is just my take on this pair now. BUT I would not trade/BUY this until it BREAKS out from that 1.3100 level.

THE PURPLE (IV) is too short in time in relation to the purple (II). That is why I think the (IV) is not yet finished. BUT once price breaks the 1.3100 level, then I would take that cue as the Looney being in the wave 5 already.

NOTE that there is a probability IMO that wave 5 will not be that powerful as it has retraced to within 50-60% of wave 3.

Anyway, I prefer to trade the CABLE. CONSIDER this as just a rambling from a trader.
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Quote:
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I'm glad that your are here El grande..

Initially i counted this up move as correction and wB goes as triangle. When i redraw it as impulse waves and w2 as abc, it leads to many (i guess 3) nested impulse waves and truncate 5th wave.

So changed w2 as triangle, then it matches well with charts, with sharp w4 retrace. Very rarely count triangle w2, if i'm not wrong its 1st time. I might be wrong too..

Can i request ur chart please, since a picture speak thousand words.


BB

I did not say you were wrong because you may have seen something I failed to see. Anyway, I posted my earlier chart count in my previous post.

But here I am attaching a revised count using the Stochastics as a guide.

However, you will see that if I start with the weekly count, my earlier count on the Daily will be revised. The last 2 charts is the alternative count.

EG
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Dec 27, 2008 9:40pm
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Quote:
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Just my opinion, but markets would still function as they always do
only difference is the population would cease to reproduce and
test tube babies would become commonplace.

In the Euro drop from 160 to 123, some saw 1 2 3 waves, then a triangle which should have been terminal,
were looking for that to be the 4th wave, then awaiting a 5th, suddenly, the market ran up 2000+ pips in just a few days,
violated the price of wave 1 and are now looking at maybe 160 to 123 was an ABC 3 wave correction of an "A"
and then this last 2000 pip run up was...


LOL! Now you got me something new to think about...test-tube babies!

Btw, I'm glad to see my countryman "el grande" posting here at FF again.

Happy, profitable 2009 all...

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Dec 28, 2008 2:14am
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cable chartt
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Dec 28, 2008 2:36am
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My euro and cable charts



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UsdJpy chart,,

It looks good for short trade,, wt u guys think?
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Well, alternation is one of the guidelines, so it often takes place. But not always. Also, the guideline does not say "how sharp" corr is or "how long" does the sideways moves take. It is just a generic principle.

So in this case those next moves that I sketched feel imo most probable, considering other pairs as well, like swissie.

If that support for the euro fails, then there is the next support at 1.3150, and if that fails too then there is a good reason to re-evaluate the count.
Other options for the euro count exist, like FXoffshore and Blue have earlier showed.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by doji
Hi, Rocroy. I agree with your EUR/USD count.

But, based on the alternation principle, shouldn't we be expecting a sharp Wave 4 retracement given that Wave 2 went sideways (and took its own sweet time doing so)?




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Dec 28, 2008 11:05am
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eur\chf
what do you say about this count on the monthly chart?
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Dec 28, 2008 12:27pm
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Quote:
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UsdJpy chart,,

It looks good for short trade,, wt u guys think?


I share the same view, only that for me to be a setup it is needed that price goes a bit higher in the 91.3-91.5 price zone where we have a good confluence.
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Dec 28, 2008 3:33pm
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Quote:
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I share the same view, only that for me to be a setup it is needed that price goes a bit higher in the 91.3-91.5 price zone where we have a good confluence.


I am a newbie with EW and have been trying to learn from everyone here. This is my first time posting a chart so here goes. I was watching the 91.25 area for wave c of 4 to end. Any input on my count is appreciated. Just trying to determine how my learning is going.
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Dec 28, 2008 5:46pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by el grande
IMHO I think USDCAD is still in a wave 4 of a wave 3 or possibly forming a BARRIER TRIANGLE or a FLAT Triangle on the DAILY CHART. THAT is just my take on this pair now. BUT I would not trade/BUY this until it BREAKS out from that 1.3100 level.

THE PURPLE (IV) is too short in time in relation to the purple (II). That is why I think the (IV) is not yet finished. BUT once price breaks the 1.3100 level, then I would take that cue as the Looney being in the wave 5 already.

NOTE that there is a probability IMO that wave 5 will not be that powerful...


Hi el grande,

Would you be able to post your current count for cable?
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EURUSD
EURUHSD 4H.

I am looking at this current move up as being a correction. Near 1.438 is a good confluence level and that's where I will look for a short setup.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftpip
I am a newbie with EW and have been trying to learn from everyone here. This is my first time posting a chart so here goes. I was watching the 91.25 area for wave c of 4 to end. Any input on my count is appreciated. Just trying to determine how my learning is going.

Your count looks good swiftpip although if you try to be a perfectionist then you'd have a hard time subdividing w3 in 5 impulses.
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Dec 29, 2008 6:49am
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Any indicators or strategy?
I'm new to this thread so pls. excuse my ignorance.

I saw the beautifully attached charts that show the EWs. Are these done manually or you have good indicators that generate these lines automatically. I was trying to check the early posts of this thread but I found none.

Any pointers?
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Dec 29, 2008 8:39am
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Your count looks good swiftpip although if you try to be a perfectionist then you'd have a hard time subdividing w3 in 5 impulses.

Thanks Soso. I feel like I am getting the hang of it until I see price movements like this morning. Now I am looking at the charts trying to see how this move in USDJPY fits into the counts, or how the counts fit into this move.

Tim

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Dec 29, 2008 8:44am
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Quote:
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I'm new to this thread so pls. excuse my ignorance.

I saw the beautifully attached charts that show the EWs. Are these done manually or you have good indicators that generate these lines automatically. I was trying to check the early posts of this thread but I found none.

Any pointers?


As a fellow newbie, the charts with the counts and labeling are done manually. I have been studying EW now for about 5 months and can tell you it takes time and patience to learn, and I am far from done with learning.
Good luck in your trading.
Tim

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Dec 29, 2008 9:07am
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I believe you swiftpip, as I am aware of the theortical part of this methodology of trading. For that reason I was asking about if our people here are using some indicator in order to mitigate the burden of the EW analysis at least.

Thanks Tim.

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Dec 29, 2008 2:39pm
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Let wave 3 down begin in Euro
Quote:
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EURUHSD 4H. I am looking at this current move up as being a correction. Near 1.438 is a good confluence level and that's where I will look for a short setup.

I agree. The bearish correction since Dec 19 1.3822 has been in 3 waves, and has taken too much time (plus overlaps) to be an impulse. Now the proof is in with todays move below 1.4018 eliminating any upward impulse count possibilities.

My first entry target is the next retracement into the 1.31 range, to catch the 6 months of wave (C) down to 1.16 range.



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Dec 29, 2008 5:32pm
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Quote:
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I agree. The bearish correction since Dec 19 1.3822 has been in 3 waves, and has taken too much time (plus overlaps) to be an impulse. Now the proof is in with todays move below 1.4018 eliminating any upward impulse count possibilities.

My first entry target is the next retracement into the 1.31 range, to catch the 6 months of wave (C) down to 1.16 range.

Attachment 186577


hey ,

so , if I got you ok , you think we haven't seen yet wave no. 3 . as in the chart attached ?
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Dec 30, 2008 7:05pm
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Quote:
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hey , so , if I got you ok , you think we haven't seen yet wave no. 3 . as in the chart attached ?

I favor that the fall from 1.60 to 1.23 was (A), however it could be 1. My second choice is A of (A) of [C].

I think we are working out a (B) wave now. It has the price height required at .618, but needs weeks more time - as I believe wave B must be (at least) equal to A in time or more. B cannot be less than A for time, unless it is in a triangle, so that means a lot of choppy/sideways price action, but favoring down in January.

If I look at the monthly and weekly charts, Eur/Usd has been in A-B-C waves since the 1970's at least. The monthly charts look like a test of .80 is possible over the next 5-10 years. USD swings in 7-10 year cycles in the past.
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Dec 30, 2008 7:43pm
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I favor that the fall from 1.60 to 1.23 was (A), however it could be 1. My second choice is A of (A) of [C].

I think we are working out a (B) wave now. It has the price height required at .618, but needs weeks more time - as I believe wave B must be (at least) equal to A in time or more. B cannot be less than A for time, unless it is in a triangle, so that means a lot of choppy/sideways price action, but favoring down in January.

If I look at the monthly and weekly charts, Eur/Usd has been in A-B-C waves since the 1970's at least. The monthly...


hi again ,

it's a good point , when you look at it that way ,a lot of pairs are in a-b-c's or 1-2-3's for years , check out usdjpy .

for the nearest future , I preffer the plan in the attached chat - when a break of 1.3825 will change it , but for now I'll be thinking it as long when the final approval will be a breakout of 1.4720 ... any thoughts ?

happy new year !!!
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Dec 31, 2008 7:09am
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UsdChf chart..
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Dec 31, 2008 7:19am
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EurGbp Chart,,

Finally falling?
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UJ update
updated count on UJ. Still looking for c of C of 4 to complete. Looking for short entry above 91.20.
Alternate count could be that this A-B-C was wave A of 4.
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hi all,

wt u guys think abt my usdjpy chart?
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Jan 5, 2009 12:51am
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Quote:
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hi all,

wt u guys think abt my usdjpy chart?


Looks good to me. Only thing is on my H1 chart I see only a Wave A so far.

Could be that wave 1 is wave A and wave 2 is wave B and wave 3/4/5 is 1/2/3 of Wave C. More trading bars will tell.
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Jan 5, 2009 5:04am
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Quote:
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Looks good to me. Only thing is on my H1 chart I see only a Wave A so far.

Could be that wave 1 is wave A and wave 2 is wave B and wave 3/4/5 is 1/2/3 of Wave C. More trading bars will tell.


Thanks SunTrader.

I see no movement in UsdCad pair last few days..

Attached my 1min chart..
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Jan 5, 2009 5:21am
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Quote:
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Thanks SunTrader.

I see no movement in UsdCad pair last few days..

Attached my 1min chart..



My target 50pips reached in no time. Trading small TF to kill time & for fun..
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Jan 5, 2009 7:27am
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UJ chart



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Jan 5, 2009 10:12am
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UJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocroy
Attachment 187978

I am just trying to get clarification of the guidelines for wave 4. It can not extend past wave 1, which ended around the 93.50 range, is that correct? If this was the end of wave 4, how would you count wave B. Blue Bottle, you state that you only count this as wave A. As a new EW counter, I am trying to understand these counts better.

Thanks
Tim

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Jan 5, 2009 10:25am
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You are right, wave 1 and 4 should not overlap.

I haven't marked wave a, b, and c in the correction. This move could contain all of them, or we could only have wave a here. The point in the chart is that (if the count is correct) is gives you a good chance for shorting with tight sl.

Anyway, here's my 4h chart, hopefully that makes things more clear.

Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftpip
I am just trying to get clarification of the guidelines for wave 4. It can not extend past wave 1, which ended around the 93.50 range, is that correct? If this was the end of wave 4, how would you count wave B. Blue Bottle, you state that you only count this as wave A. As a new EW counter, I am trying to understand these counts better.

Thanks
Tim





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Jan 5, 2009 10:27am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swiftpip
I am just trying to get clarification of the guidelines for wave 4. It can not extend past wave 1, which ended around the 93.50 range, is that correct? If this was the end of wave 4, how would you count wave B. Blue Bottle, you state that you only count this as wave A. As a new EW counter, I am trying to understand these counts better.

Thanks
Tim


Hi Tim,

i think u got me wrong. I counted w4 as abc & i believe wC was ended at 93.5. This way, w4 is not into w1 area & no EW rules are broken too.
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Jan 5, 2009 11:11am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
Hi Tim,

i think u got me wrong. I counted w4 as abc & i believe wC was ended at 93.5. This way, w4 is not into w1 area & no EW rules are broken too.


Thanks for the clarification. I will continue to practice my counts.

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Jan 5, 2009 3:57pm
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Speaking of EW schools you guys might check out Robert Miner's new book (High Probability Trading Strategies), not focused on EW only but highly practical strategies built around simple EW analysis.
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Jan 5, 2009 5:25pm
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Soso,

Miner is exactly the guy I do follow and his belief (mine too) is that EW's are present only about 50% of the time and it is not neccessary to label every zig and zag.

Just like day follows night and night follows day, and numerous other balances of nature and life, noise follows EW's and EW's follow noise.

I leave the noise alone.



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Jan 5, 2009 11:58pm
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my EurChf chart..

I recounted it as impulse waves..


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As you seen yesterday market has perform to complete wave c (white) and also wave 4 (yellow). Now we have 2 situation here. Either market to climbing to complete wave 3 (white) or wave 2/b (orange). Good luck!

*Correct me if i'm wrong
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Quote:
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As you seen yesterday market has perform to complete wave c (white) and also wave 4 (yellow). Now we have 2 situation here. Either market to climbing to complete wave 3 (white) or wave 2/b (orange). Good luck!

*Correct me if i'm wrong



Hi all,

My gbpJpy chart. After some struggle managed to read it.

What you guys think? Any correction??
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Jan 8, 2009 12:37pm
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Quote:
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Hi all,

My gbpJpy chart. After some struggle managed to read it.

What you guys think? Any correction??


Yeah same with my counting. Blue Bottle which pair you focus on your trade?
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Jan 8, 2009 12:39pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue bottle
Hi all,

My gbpJpy chart. After some struggle managed to read it.

What you guys think? Any correction??


nice count blue. now, it's very clear. thanks.

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Jan 8, 2009 5:03pm
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EURUSD
EURUSD M30

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Jan 8, 2009 5:58pm
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I read that gbpjpy as the end of extended fifth wave on weekly chart. I agree with the intended move to upside tho.

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Jan 8, 2009 6:39pm
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-12 09:04 | 显示全部楼层
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Us Dollar

Usd/Chf
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Double Bottom Formation ?
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Jan 11, 2009 1:27am
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Need EW experts' advice
I am still learning EW analysis. I've tried to come up with EW count on eurusd daily chart. Although I have a few scenarios, this is the best count that I can come up with so far (image attached). If it's correct, then I think the wave 5:3 up move is underway?. That coincides with the cross up of the momentum indicator below the chart. Please, EW experts tell me whether my count is alright. Thanks for your replies.
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Jan 11, 2009 7:51am
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I have something different. Last move up was a wave b of a correction, wave c downwards has started already and should be in for new lows on the daily TF.
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Jan 11, 2009 9:40pm
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UsdChf 15mins Chart..

Completing 5 waves..
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Jan 11, 2009 9:56pm
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GbpJpy Hourly Chart..
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Jan 12, 2009 12:22am
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Triangle in EurChf?
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Jan 12, 2009 4:16am
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hi all,

my cable chart...

Seems like w4 is forming as expanding triangle..
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Jan 12, 2009 4:21am
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Quote:
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hi all,

my cable chart...

Seems like w4 is forming as expanding triangle..


Yes looks like expanding triangle. Might turn into diamond later

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Jan 12, 2009 4:44am
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hi all,

my usdjpy chart..

I have redraw all waves since my previous counts became invalid..

Pls commant.
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