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发表于 2005-10-4 16:54 | 显示全部楼层
一个开念被炒高后,有关这个慨年有关的资料到处可见,就是告诉你这个楷念的炒做是合呼要求的,也是合理的!
在大多数不理解这个慨念的投资者看来,被这些慨念被炒做的合理性深信不疑,不知不觉就被加入到这个慨念的队伍中!
这些就是典型的慨念推广论,也是典型的主力出货前做的前期工作!
楼主也许是做太阳能工作的吧,偶想一个股票投资者那有这么多精力去研究生产技术了,特别是一种看不见而摸得着的一种很深的未来技术!
大约在半年前,楼主要是把这些资料介绍给MACD的会员该多好呵!现在个个的资金都翻个二倍啦^_^
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发表于 2005-10-4 17:02 | 显示全部楼层
Originally posted by kasini at 2005-10-4 16:54
一个开念被炒高后,有关这个慨年有关的资料到处可见,就是告诉你这个楷念的炒做是合呼要求的,也是合理的!
在大多数不理解这个慨念的投资者看来,被这些慨念被炒做的合理性深信不疑,不知不觉就被加入到这个慨念的队伍 ...

注意学习,你才不会错过机会
时刻进步,你才更好把握机会

吃葡萄吐不吐皮在于个人习惯,营养肯定是有的。
葡萄酸不酸也并不重要,关键只在于个人的口味。

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发表于 2005-10-4 17:38 | 显示全部楼层
卡布,我真是服了你了,哈哈

饭局去了,晚上回来再贴点CLSA的东东
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发表于 2005-10-4 17:40 | 显示全部楼层
我支持你的观点!天威怎么可能是传统意义上的简单的庄股呢?太肤浅了!
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发表于 2005-10-4 17:41 | 显示全部楼层
工业革命的前进道路是坎坷的,慨念未来肯定会成为现实。
既然是是合呼要求的,也是合理的,那就去做啊。
至少现在旭日东升,还未夕阳西下。
现在既无卖点也没到止赢价。继续持有
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发表于 2005-10-4 17:41 | 显示全部楼层
550不是太贵了,而是太便宜了
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-4 18:09 | 显示全部楼层

不要浅表地说谁涨谁跌,我们要从涨跌中学习到知识和赚到钱

所以,我将我学习的资料贴出一些和大家共享。有些人也不要怪我贴得晚,即使你和我一起买,虽然不是买得太早,到今天,你的资金也已经翻倍了。试问,股票市场一年下来,有几个赚钱?又有几个能翻倍呢?

我不是要简单追求数字游戏,去年我5万做期货铝,我一个月就翻倍了。但我最后到年底也就留下了50%的收益,为什么,因为,金融投资市场,只要你今天和明天还要继续玩,那么就没有分出最后的输赢,这也是我希望每个做天威的朋友心态要平和,并加强知识的学习的原因,我们要尽量减少被K线和资金增减左右自己情绪的因素,使我们在这个危险的市场活得健康,活得长远。
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发表于 2005-10-4 18:41 | 显示全部楼层
股市没有最后的赢家。
出来混的,迟早要买单的。
存在就是一切,一切为了存在。
不要怕交易,也不要爱上你的头寸。
做股票好比谈恋爱,请充份享受恋爱的激情。
做股票好比做产业,要有高起点,好眼光,大气魄。
现在是革命的初期,请仰视不要俯视。会当岭绝顶才能一览纵山小。
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-4 18:59 | 显示全部楼层

呵呵,老朱是搞艺术的

骨子里的东西
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发表于 2005-10-4 19:54 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,看高一线.
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-4 20:24 | 显示全部楼层

美国Boulder市太阳热电站

新闻来源:互联网 作者:未知  日期:2005-9-30 11:36:00   点击数:44
  
    计划中的Boulder市大型太阳能发电厂可能成为已批准的可再生能源计划的受益者。该项目的主要障碍是资金。新临时可再生能源开发计划?TRED?应当解决这个问题,使Eldorado太阳能发电站的建造在2005年开始。TRED计划是应可再生能源开发者的要求制定的。按照该计划,付费人交付的费用应直接拨到可再生能源开发者的名下。这样它就不会分流出去了。Solargenix现在正在制订资助计划的细节。Eldorado电厂的建造工作大约要18个月。这座50MW的电厂是美国第三大的太阳能发电厂。现在电厂和LasVegas的内华达电力公司之间已经签订了合同。这项交易已于2003年3月由州公用事业委员会批准。它将向4600个标准南部内华达家庭供电。Solargenix租用该市Eldorado谷土地350英亩,租期40年。一旦电厂开始运行,该市每年收取电厂55万美元的土地租金。
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-4 20:28 | 显示全部楼层

英国一研究太阳电能池装置开工建设

先进的研究和制造太阳能电池的装置在英国Northumberland·Blyth新能源和可再生能源中心?Narec?开工。这是Narec3个主要建筑之一,其他两个是长达75米的巨型风机叶片试验设施和为东北服务的电气试验室。在该太阳能电池研究项目中,将集中力量研究第二代太阳电池,这种电池将和屋顶,墙壁和门窗结合。另一个主要目标是研究降低太阳能电池成本的材料和制造方法。Blyth中心还和Durham太阳能玻璃板制造者Romag和Northumbria大学合作,制造不仅能遮雨还能支撑太阳电池的板。
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发表于 2005-10-4 20:34 | 显示全部楼层

550不是太贵了,而是太便宜了 ?

各位大侠谈谈我对550的想法。550对价前我就看好,可惜对550的基本面不了解,一直没有参于【希望各位多多指教】对价后强劲走势使我不安。9.13日的停板使我对550有了再认识;主要是学习了各位朋友的贴子。9.14日的跳空使我强烈感到龙头来了。而且跳空缺口我人为是为太阳能而跳。市场有先知先觉,不知不觉,后知后觉。市场对太阳能的认知使550脱颖而出,因此我把缺口看作太阳能缺口。高位买入。尽管后市跌停,心态有变化,可始终认为缺口不会补。低位仓的平仓,换手,基本面的支持,550会走的更远。作为新兴的产业,中国企业错过了许多,当然有各种原因。而太阳能中国企业站在前列【相对吧】,以及成本优势【组装成本】,市场会发掘的。会疯狂吗?我不知。我知道会死亡。感谢各位朋友的发言,学到许多,一点浅见
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-4 21:25 | 显示全部楼层

资本之王

这两天,无锡阴雨绵绵,天不作美,只好在家泡一杯热咖啡,坐在阳台边上看花旗的老板桑迪威尔的传记《资本之王》。看看美国1965-1970期间的股市,觉得和我们国家现在的处境极其相似。再看看美国管理层70年推出的投资者保护法规,和我们今年刚推出的投资者保护基金多么相似啊!呵呵,我们整个就是落后了30多年哪!
我透过书本不仅看到了落后,更看到了未来我国可能的金融走向,似乎也有了更好的证券选择!
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发表于 2005-10-4 21:29 | 显示全部楼层
幸好是落后了30多年...  呵呵
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-4 21:37 | 显示全部楼层

你想落后几年啊

我们的证券市场年数不长,速度超快,超快的后果就是该还的债还是要还
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发表于 2005-10-4 22:04 | 显示全部楼层

CLSA20057月继去年之后发表第二版PV分析报告

这份报告对PV市场保持了更为乐观的预测

Despite risks, CLSA diagnoses rosy future for PV – at least for the big fish

Michael Rogol of Credit Lyonnais Securities Asia (CLSA), arguably PV's most zealous investment analyst, maintains his bullish position in the second Sun Screen report, forecasting an annual 6 MW market by the end of the decade – in spite of tight silicon supply and expectations of Germany's pro-PV government being chucked out of office. But his predictions of tripling revenues and profits by 2010 are only valid for »well-positioned« players, leaving readers to ponder what fate awaits many of the more than 600 companies CLSA interviewed.

Painting a sunny picture for solar investors, CLSA expects a 30 percent annual growth for cell production while revenues more than triple over five years.
  
With a tightening supply of silicon feedstock – PV's all important mother's milk – and the likely exit of a German government that heralded the world's most successful PV incentive scheme, this would seem an appropriate moment for PV industry heads to start suffering from anxiety attacks over fears that the sector's bubble is about to burst.

Not to worry, says investment analyst Michael Rogol. The solid investment in solar »looks nothing like a bubble,« writes the 33-year-old financial researcher for brokerage firm Credit Lyonnais Securities Asia (CLSA) in »Sun Screen II – Investment Opportunities for the Solar Sector,« published in July. While the sunny beach cover of the 78-page report showing lazing sunbathers is very similar to the title page of the initial study done in July 2004 (see PI 9/2004, p. 52), the new edition adds frolicking adults, children, and pets, a graphic update perhaps meant to send a subliminal message that all is well in the world of PV.

Indeed, a healthy subconscious may be what Rogol wants to unveil at this moment of PV market angst. Despite his researcher's guise, Rogol seems to have acted as much as a psychoanalyst as an investment analyst during his interviews. In Freudian fashion, Rogol and his team have carefully listened to representatives from over 600 solar-related companies, discovering that even those experiencing a sky-is-falling dread of what may come nevertheless maintain latent positive outlooks. This exhaustive screening process – hence the study's pun-intended name – has led Rogol to conclude that investors, rather than cashing in on the sector's profitable stock year, should be positioning themselves for a market with a »significant upside« and share prices that he believes could appreciate threefold over two or three years. Any volatility due to risks Rogol delves into can be moderated by a balanced portfolio of solar stocks. His interview-based prediction is that annual cell production will expand form 1.15 GW in 2004 to1.5 GW in 2005 and then at least quadruple to 6 GW by the end of the decade, during which time revenue should increase from $8.3 billion in 2004 to $36.1 billion in 2010, and pre-tax profits from $1.2 billion to $6.4 billion.

But there is a catch. This »strong conviction« only applies to what he describes as »well-positioned players« who have set up long-term contracts in a tight silicon-feedstock supply world. The fate of small players leaves them »at risk of being 'squeezed out' of the market.« This Darwinian survival-of-the-fittest description implies Rogol will have far fewer companies to interview next time around as the big fish eat the small fry.

Rogol, who has meted out some highlights of the report's findings over the past few months in PHOTON International as a regular commentator (see PI 5/2005, p. 106; PI 6/2005, p. 74; and PI 7/2005, p. 46), has extended many projections to the end of the decade – and even beyond in some cases – punctuating the Sun Screen report with well over a hundred informative tables and charts. Often described as »rough estimates,« together they reveal the incredible depth of research and forecasting Rogol has undertaken.

The German question

Reading Sun Screen II – even more optimistic than its already very upbeat predecessor – there is no doubt that Rogol lives on the sunny side of solar street. Where others see black thunderclouds, Rogol sees blue skies. Take the most recent bump in the road – the uncertain future of Germany's pro-solar Social Democratic Party (SPD). The country's ruling party – which along with its coalition partner, the Greens, championed the all-important PV feed-in tariff as part of the country's Renewable Energy Law (EEG) that has helped catapult Germany past Japan in terms of installed PV capacity – suffered poor results in regional elections. On May 23, as SPD Chancellor Gerhard Schröder quickly called for national elections – a vote his party is likely to lose to the conservative Christian Democratic Union (CDU) come September – worldwide solar stocks immediately took an 8-percent hit (Germany's SolarWorld dropped a full 14 percent). While this has set off an undercurrent of shockwaves throughout the PV community, Rogol is skeptical that it would hurt either Germany's or, by extension, the world's PV sector – as he points out, solar stocks have since rebounded from the brief downturn. Based on CLSA's interviews with people active in German politics, he concludes the market could only be harmed if the current EEG were completely rescinded, something Rogol describes as »rare and politically difficult« –- especially since the solar sector has created up to an estimated 65,000 jobs since 2000 during tough economic times and Germans hold very »green« environmental views. »While there might be a war of attrition by opponents trying to recapture lost land,« he writes, »it is highly unlikely that there will be much backward movement because there are too many jobs at stake, and too many people who already have solar on the roofs.« Even in the improbable case that changes to EEG mainstays, such as eliminating non-rooftop applications – important for getting multi-megawatt systems installed – or accelerating the annual 5-percent decrease for newly installed residential rooftop systems, Rogol believes the »back-up« demand driven by strong policy support in 40 worldwide markets could take up any slack. As all of his contacts agreed anyway, there is »no realistic potential for production to meet end-customer demand before 2008« due to the silicon shortage.

And on the subject of the tight silicon supply, which he lists as the sector's number one risk, Rogol should be given credit for shedding light on a murky and difficult-to-predict topic that haunts the industry more than any other. Ironically it is just that fear, he says, which has made a real problem worse. Panicking players – from cell companies to wholesalers and installers – have entered into the role traditionally played by ingot and wafer companies, he points out, in a frantic search for the mother lode of silicon, bringing about »a shortage mentality that creates artificial demand and even hording.«

Feedstock costs going up

Given the insatiable demand for PV systems, the major cell producers (interestingly, BP Solar, the 2004 number three cell producer, is not mentioned at all in the body of the report) would »surely utilize more silicon feedstock« if available, Rogol writes. He reckons that the tight supply will only loosen up as companies agree to long-term contracts, as many are doing now. Feedstock manufacturers, burned when the tech bubble burst in about 2000 and the demand for the semiconductor industry's electronics-grade silicon (EG-Si) shrank, are insisting on guaranteed money up front before investing in the ramp-up of capacity. PV customers are currently paying between $35 and $45 per kg for solar-grade silicon (SoG-Si), depending on aspects such as duration and volume, as compared to earlier contracts with a 2005 average of about $26. Costs are expected to peak around $50 in 2006 (up 39 perecent from the $36 Rogol predicted in the Sun Screen I report), then decline to $45 in 2007, but only to $40 for the following two years as end-customer demand continues to outpace supply through the end of the decade. The big winners are the silicon manufacturers, which – as he estimates in one table – will still be earning pre-tax profit margins of 35 percent, the largest along the supply chain. In other words, the feedstock manufacturers have mid-stream PV companies over a price barrel, and those with deep pockets will have the best chances not only to survive these hard times, but even thrive.

Current increases to capacity are incremental, based on de-bottlenecking of production and running silicon plants harder with less maintenance. While raising the unlikely, but frightening possibility of plant accidents and production shutdowns, this has allowed what Rogol calls »capacity creep,« where silicon customers have been able to obtain hundreds of tons of SoG-Si in spot purchases. He is predicting capacity for both SoG-Si and EG-Si (typically costing $10 per kg more than for SoG-Si) will be increased to at least 65,000 tons by 2010, more than double the available supply of 32,000 tons in 2004 when 14,000 tons was used for solar. SoG-Si availability should increase to 16,000 tons for 2005 on a total production of about 36,000 tons, and 19,000 tons of SoG-Si out of a total of 42,000 tons in 2006. Beyond that, he makes no predictions for SoG-Si supplies, warning only that if EG-Si demand increases faster than the expected 5-percent annual growth, this »would put a further squeeze on silicon supplies for the solar sector and create more volatility.«

One bright spot could be from stock-listed Japanese silicon supplier Tokuyama, which has set up pilot production of a vapor-to-liquid deposition (VLD) process for polycrystalline silicon with the promise of faster production and lower costs. While a 2,000 ton commercial plant could start in mid-2008, bumped up to 5,000 tons in 2009, with similar size factories coming on line every couple of years thereafter (see PI 5/2005, p. 24), the quality is currently only sufficient for SoG-Si, writes Rogol, not semiconductors.

While Rogol says nothing about the tight supply opening a window of opportunity for less silicon-intensive concentrating PV (for an in-depth look, see PI 7/2005, p. 50), he does expect the situation to help non-crystalline silicon technologies double 2005 production to 140 MW and expand to 240 MW in 2006 (although not mentioned in the study, Rogol oddly includes in this HIT cells from Sanyo, a company which produced 65 MW of the cells in 2004).

Rapid growth still in the cards

As to Rogol's prediction of the rapid growth for c-Si technologies, this is based largely on a continued increase in cell efficiencies and thinner wafers. Discussions with several top industry executives have convinced him to revise a prediction on silicon usage per watt, from 13 g in 2004, shrinking by 1 g per year till reaching 7 g per W in 2010, well below last year's Sun Screen prediction of 10 g.

Despite the silicon shortage and other risks that could affect demand for PV – including a drop in oil prices, a rise in interest rates, and a backlash from utilities – overall the industry could even outdo his prediction of at least 30 percent annual growth leading to his 6 GW prediction for 2010. In a best-case scenario, according to senior industry executives he talked with, a growth of at least 40 percent is possible if silicon feedstock production exceed expectations while silicon usage for wafers declines, leading to a 2010 production of 8.7 MW. Judging by orders placed with equipment manufacturers, which Rogol calls »a good leading indicator for volume growth rates,« CLSA believes that a 10 GW level is not »out of the question.«

Rogol even puts a positive spin on the tight silicon supply, a kind of blessing in disguise for mid-stream players, at least again for the larger companies with deeper pockets and long-term contracts that can pass costs on up the supply chain. This will lessen price competition, increasing revenues and margins, thus creating »windfalls for the better-positioned players« – and this despite the fact that the year-on-year percentage of revenues and pre-tax margins are expected to start declining in 2007.

Rogol does not give much weight to a concern expressed by some company representatives that if prices for solar rose at the same time as growth rates were strong, it could lead to diminished support among policy makers. Although logical, he has seen no evidence of this, saying he expects »greener« government and corporate policies to continue through the end of the decade. In a footnote, he adds that CLSA will keeps it eye on any loss of »PV momentum,« but remarks that diverse scenarios such as possible nuclear power plant accidents or higher fuel costs mean policy support will not weaken »in the foreseeable future.«

And certainly not if Rogol's rough estimates on global average prices are close to being accurate. This could be considered the most incredible – and crucial – piece of analysis in the whole report. Rogol forecasts a 10-percent increase in module prices in 2005, halving to a 5-percent rise in 2006, dropping thereafter so that in 2008 prices would be below the 2004 level of $3.25 per W. The beauty of this is that, according to Rogol's reckoning, the two years of module price increases would have a minimal effect on end-user prices since BOS and installations costs will continue to fall. Rogol expects only a 2-percent jump in installed costs in 2005, staying flat in 2006, then dropping 5 percent in 2007 to $7.10 per W – or about 2 percent lower than his figure for installed prices of $7.25 in 2004 – and down to $6.02 in 2010.

But there is an alternative view that CLSA, he later says, has decided not to incorporate into its calculations. Under this scenario, mid-stream companies with low utilization rates of equipment would attempt to recoup investments by raising module prices in 2006 by 10 percent – double Rogol's 5-percent prediction – leading to an end-customer price increase of 3 percent to about $7.60 per W. As part of this alternative view, three factors could then combine to drop prices from 2007 onward faster than Rogol's prediction, and thus undercut margins: if Germany's annual 5-percent decrease to its feed-in tariff for new residential installations was accelerated; if very fast production cost reductions allowed manufacturers to lower prices while maintaining profits; and if there is an overcapacity driven by the introduction of new entrants, such as China, that are willing to cut prices to gain market share.

Cryptic warning for future margins?

And China actually figures into a somewhat cryptic warning Rogol makes to the bottom lines for well-positioned PV businesses in the century's second decade. »We do not expect to see the sector turn unprofitable before 2010,« he writes. While undoubtedly intended to mollify fears that only »modest margin contraction« could be experienced in some areas starting in 2008, if turned around, the implication could be that the emerging Asian tigers, especially China, could dampen the prospects for the financial reports of Japanese, German, and US PV companies. In the mid-term, says Rogol, who spent a week in China investigating the market, the country's rapid PV expansion is »not a major risk« to the solar sector due to the silicon shortage and the fact that Chinese players are operating at »very low utilization rates.« The largest impact for now will be from Chinese assemblers of modules, which Rogol expects to increase from 300 MW this year to 500 MW in 2006. But in the longer term, »beyond 2008 and perhaps beyond 2010,« Rogol believes China will emerge as one of the world's largest solar producers with the »potential to drive down global utilization rates and margins.«

With information like that, the Sun Screen II report is obviously a must-have for all industry executives to include in their summer reading lists. But the investors are the real audience for this information-rich publication. As such, CLSA has put together an investor's portfolio of 15 solar stocks intended to offset the risks faced by the sector (for a look at the portfolio choices, see Rogol's article on p. 52).

This coming year should show whether CLSA has picked winners. If yes, there will be stock-happy smiles all around. If not, investors who have bitten the bullet may want to rush set up their psychoanalysis appointments in order to beat out a throng of industry executives seeking solace for their nerve-wracked PV psyches.
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发表于 2005-10-4 22:18 | 显示全部楼层
其中对市场风险主要提到了这5点:
These risks include:
1)  Silicon supply constraints (demand exceeds capacity)
硅原料的供应
2)  Potential changes in German pro-solar policies
德国太阳能促进政策可能的改变
3)  Impact of possible interest rate increase
利率冲击
4)  Potential backlash by generating companies against solar power
发电公司反对
5)  Impact on solar stocks if oil prices fall
油价下跌

不过CLSA对这5点分析后认为实现的可能性和影响不大,如第2点,CLSA认为很难改变现行政策,因为这已经是一项完整的法律,改变它比改变政府要难得多,而且支持太阳能政策的选民越来越多,并且现行促进太阳能政策不是政府随意决策的产物,而是反复斗争和推动的结果。
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发表于 2005-10-4 22:29 | 显示全部楼层
CLSA认为很难改变现行政策,因为这已经是一项完整的法律,改变它比改变政府要难得多,而且支持太阳能政策的选民越来越多,并且现行促进太阳能政策不是政府随意决策的产物,而是反复斗争和推动的结果。

   
      好!这正是我所担心的,看来是多虑了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2005-10-4 22:30 | 显示全部楼层

综合这些因素,关键还是天威自个要争气啊

如果丁强老总画了一张蓝图不抓紧落实,一切都是空的。完整的产业链需要坚强有力的团队去锻造。我希望看到三季度有新的进展。
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