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This trade was triggered at 9:00am.

A look at the new VWAP feature in Ensign.



Session Start: Mon Mar 03 06:02:54 2008
Session Ident: #enthios
[06:02] * Now talking in #enthios
[06:02] * Topic is ' 0,2 8,10 ENTHIOS.COM Live Signals 0,2 1,0 Futures Trading. Free to Join. Our 9th Year. Featuring the Universal Method. '
[06:02] * Set by X on Mon Feb 25 07:19:36
[06:02] -X- Authorization Granted on channel #enthios
[06:03] <Widgetman> there is my jam
[06:03] <Widgetman> I expected
[06:04] <Widgetman> on euro
[06:04] <Widgetman> sorry
[06:14] <enthios> good morning
[06:14] <enthios> Today's Natural Trading Ranges (NTR) for ES, ER2, YM and NQ:
[06:14] <enthios> 10,10. 1,0 S&P : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/esblog.htm
[06:14] <enthios> 7,7. 1,0 ER2 : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/er2blog.htm
[06:14] <enthios> 13,13. 1,0 YM : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/ymblog.htm
[06:14] <enthios> 9,9. 1,0 NQ : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/nqblog.htm
[06:15] <c4s> gm everyone
[06:16] <smik8153> gm
[06:19] <Rey5601> gm
[06:24] <Fpych> gm all
[06:27] * Protrader good morning
[06:28] * subq - market profile charts for today - http://www.charthub.com/chart/search/mpchart
[06:29] <jjs> good morning
[06:32] <eric> gm group
[06:35] <enthios> thanks subq
[06:35] <enthios> gm everyone
[06:35] <enthios> only YM has an imminent long trade
[06:37] <enthios> 13,13. 1,0 YM Blog Update: 12 http://www.enthios.com/blogs/ymblog.htm
[06:37] <enthios> 13,13. 1,0 long signal approaching @ vpc
[06:43] <enthios> Note the slow stochastic is not in alignment
[06:48] <smik8153> ISM mfg index at 10:00
[06:54] <enthios> short the financials, long agriculture
[06:54] <enthios> :)
[06:54] <enthios> it's the "plastics" of the 21st century
[06:54] <enthios> (recalling that famous line from The Graduate)
[06:54] <c4s> lol
[06:55] <c4s> one word - plastics
[06:55] <enthios> As food become more scarce and arable land is used to create energy, prices will go up.
[06:56] <enthios> Does anyone here trade those super baskets (or whatever they are called)
[06:56] <enthios> ?
[06:57] <Protrader> no
[06:58] <Al> no
[07:01] <billytom> 10:00U.S. construction spending falls 1.7% in January
[07:02] <enthios> just missed our long signal
[07:02] <enthios> by the hair of its chinny chin chin
[07:02] <billytom> no. i got your posting
[07:03] <billytom> and long at YM 12189
[07:03] <billytom> thank you
[07:03] <enthios> did your stochastics line up?
[07:03] <eric> 12228 friday low
[07:03] <billytom> yes.
[07:03] <enthios> great!
[07:03] <enthios> mine didn't
[07:03] <billytom> but i use slow one.
[07:04] <eric> 12223 2/11 poc, 1225 2/7 POC
[07:04] <eric> maybe we geta pullback
[07:05] <enthios> yes, i use slow one also...it did not go below 20 on my chart
[07:06] <eric> there's our keltner exit :(
[07:06] <DigeratiX> it went low for me
[07:06] <DigeratiX> below 20
[07:07] <enthios> interesting
[07:07] <enthios> i just did a refresh
[07:07] <enthios> and mine went low
[07:07] <enthios> but fast stochstic was not lined up
[07:07] <DigeratiX> 
[07:08] <Leek> not lined up here as well
[07:08] <enthios> Diger, looks like you did not refresh your charts
[07:08] <eric> 
[07:09] <DigeratiX> well I just opend it not long ago
[07:09] <maxdata> i have keltner wider than on that chart eric
[07:09] <DigeratiX> just did a 24hour refresh
[07:09] <DigeratiX> no change in looks
[07:09] <eric> are using 3.0 setting or 3.8?
[07:09] <DigeratiX> 3.0
[07:10] <maxdata> 3
[07:10] <eric> did u so a full refresh since 6pm yesterday?
[07:10] <enthios> 
[07:10] <DigeratiX> yes hence the "24hour " refresh
[07:10] <DigeratiX> you can see my 8:30 line
[07:11] <DigeratiX> WOW
[07:11] <DigeratiX> refresh JUST NOW kicked in
[07:11] <DigeratiX> sloooooow
[07:11] <eric> dig, your lat data since this morning is friday afternoon
[07:11] <eric> u are missing overnight since yesterday
[07:11] <enthios> :)
[07:11] <enthios> sorry to take that good trade away from you ! :P
[07:11] <DigeratiX> 
[07:11] <DigeratiX> now it looks like that
[07:12] <enthios> 
[07:12] <enthios> I'd much prefer it to look like the one you posted :-(
[07:12] <DigeratiX> hahha
[07:12] <enthios> This is the problem with an objective method
[07:12] <enthios> But I wouldn't have it any other way
[07:13] <eric> 686.3 large POC er2 2/22
[07:14] <DigeratiX> my ES chart doesnt seem to really want to refresh
[07:14] <DigeratiX> yet....
[07:15] <enthios> shorts lining up on ES and ER
[07:15] <leeker> 
[07:15] <eric> Dig, switch to DTN and refresh max
[07:16] <eric> then put it back to IB
[07:16] <leeker> enthio. does my chart on the YM look like it is right. I refreshed it
[07:16] <DigeratiX> forgive me for being stupid, I dont see a MAX on the 50range chart to refresh to
[07:16] <eric> TODAY, sorry
[07:16] <DigeratiX> k
[07:17] <Iwill> for those who watch the market all day ... how do you trade the enthios system? Do you monitor the 4 indices for possible setups?
[07:17] <maxdata> y
[07:18] <eric> set price alert lines with sound a few points above/below VPCs
[07:19] <eric> "set it and forget it!"
[07:19] <cuzzo> Dig be careful with your refreshes if your using IB
[07:20] <cuzzo> other wise you will get pacing violation
[07:20] <DigeratiX> ok
[07:20] <cuzzo> just reminding ya bud
[07:20] <eric> that is why DTN is a better choice
[07:20] <cuzzo> oh yes it is
[07:20] <eric> they have more ticks/packet as well
[07:20] <cuzzo> eric how much do you pay
[07:20] <eric> i only refresh using IB for 33mins if I get dosconnected
[07:21] <cuzzo> dtz is what about 75 a month
[07:21] <eric> IB is free
[07:21] <cuzzo> dtn sorry
[07:21] <eric> free delayed through ensign
[07:21] <cuzzo> oh thought you meant you have dtn data
[07:21] <eric> will i do, i suppose :)
[07:21] <cuzzo> i see you refresh on dtn lol
[07:21] <billytom> i am out YM at 263. Thank you Enthios
[07:22] <enthios> excellent !
[07:22] <cuzzo> nice billtom
[07:22] <eric> i wished i sin't refresh today
[07:22] <eric> didn't
[07:22] <enthios> me too
[07:22] <enthios> 7,7. 1,0 ER2 Blog Update: 12 http://www.enthios.com/blogs/er2blog.htm
[07:22] <enthios> 7,7. 1,0 Short signal approaching @ VPC
[07:24] <eric> YM based on 12223-12225 POC cluster mentioned earlier
[07:29] <eric> 689.5 er2 friday close
[07:30] <enthios> yes, all (es, er, ym) are stalling at those clusteres
[07:30] <enthios> finding resistance for time being
[07:31] <enthios> those thinking short, may be a good excuse for a scalp
[07:33] * Protrader market trading between the close and friday's low
[07:33] <julian> you mean there are bulls left? lol
[07:34] <eric> YM weakest index vs. fri close
[07:35] * Protrader 230 key hold
[07:37] <eric> anybody know how to read Buffy's charts?
[07:37] <cuzzo> not me
[07:37] <enthios> sorry eric, i tried for years
[07:37] <eric> lol
[07:37] <enthios> they sure are pretty, though
[07:37] <cuzzo> Buffy is great lady but i dont understand all that stuff
[07:37] <eric> very trippy
[07:38] <eric> i understood 2 years ago
[07:38] <cuzzo> she gives a lot to everyone fantastic lady
[07:38] <eric> clearly she has made some modifications
[07:38] <cuzzo> its just way too much stuff
[07:38] <enthios> actually, the basic idea is catching 2nd touch on reversals
[07:38] <cuzzo> what MOF?
[07:38] <eric> she would do playbacks sat mornings, which was nice
[07:38] <enthios> did you ever learn the B-line and MOF?
[07:39] <cuzzo> yeh liek is said she is the best
[07:39] <cuzzo> not me E
[07:39] <cuzzo> i cant trade on charts like that
[07:39] <eric> i remeber faintly the bline
[07:39] <enthios> I used to ask specific questions about 'what point did you enter the trade?'
[07:39] <enthios> 'where did you exit?'
[07:39] <eric> she was looking for a visual of a suck with a beak or something
[07:39] <cuzzo> i did try few years ago but i got lost
[07:39] <eric> duck
[07:40] <enthios> it seems to work for some people, though
[07:40] <eric> i was never really clear on that either, and everbody seemed to be doing their own thing
[07:40] <enthios> yes
[07:40] <enthios> lots of beautiful charts
[07:40] <enthios> none of them showing entry and exit points
[07:40] <enthios> which, for me, is how you learn
[07:40] <enthios> even if they are subjective points
[07:41] <cuzzo> i am liking price action the best
[07:41] <enthios> but, everyone is different
[07:41] <cuzzo> and using your system to see it
[07:41] <cuzzo> i do like your setup
[07:41] <enthios> buffy actually wrote the price action chapter of my book !
[07:41] <cuzzo> clean charts and all
[07:42] <cuzzo> really she did?
[07:42] <enthios> yup
[07:42] <cuzzo> she has helped me when i had IB problems
[07:42] <cuzzo> she is always there for you
[07:42] <cuzzo> she will put your first over herself
[07:42] <cuzzo> you dont get that from many people
[07:42] <enthios> actually i t's the appendix
[07:42] <enthios> page 221
[07:44] <eric> just took me about 45 seconds to click all the ads on all the blogs
[07:45] <DigeratiX> let me do the same
[07:45] <eric> for just 45 secs a day, u can adopt a trading system
[07:45] <enthios> thanks gang
[07:45] <smik8153> Looks like we are at the .5 fibo on YM if im doing correctly
[07:46] <enthios> the lowe poc cluster is proving strong resistance - for now
[07:46] <DigeratiX> E on the ES I just got a alert long and a blue arrow pointing up, it is not showing a price there. I see it happens sometimes andnot sometimes, am I missing something?
[07:46] <Audi> Enthios - I just ordered your book "Frontiers.." How current is your book?
[07:46] <enthios> Diger, no you're correct
[07:46] <enthios> I don't understand why the price doesn't show up right away
[07:47] <DigeratiX> does it happen to you as well then?
[07:47] <enthios> Seems it 'waits' until another arrow has painted, until the price for the previous arrow shows up
[07:47] <enthios> i've been meaning to ask howard about it
[07:47] <DigeratiX> k
[07:47] <DigeratiX> thought it was just me
[07:47] <enthios> Audi, published in 2003
[07:48] <enthios> Chapter 10 talks about the Market Profile / Price Histogram
[07:48] <enthios> Pg. 157 introduces the Natural Trading Range
[07:48] <cuzzo> question for anyone in the room
[07:48] <cuzzo> does anyone here use sierra charts
[07:48] <enthios> The Universal Method was a natural outgrowth of those two chapters
[07:49] <cuzzo> and how do you like it
[07:49] <cuzzo> cool E
[07:49] <DigeratiX> on the dvd, how current is the uni method
[07:49] <Audi> Are you working on a new book?
[07:51] <Audi> Enthios - I sent you email regarding accessibility into forum. I figured out how to change preferences so my yahoo will accept invitions. Have you received it? Sent it on the weekend.
[07:53] <cuzzo> went into radio shack yesterday just to look at sirous radio
[07:54] <cuzzo> and i seen a pc there for sale
[07:54] <cuzzo> 450 bucks
[07:54] <cuzzo> dual core 2g ram and 500 hard drive all in a mini case
[07:54] <cuzzo> so it is not expandale but not bad at all
[07:54] <cuzzo> windows vista perium
[07:55] <maxdata> cuzzo tradingcomputers.com has great products
[07:55] <cuzzo> the guy was great and he ytried to explain to me about windows mac and linux
[07:55] <cuzzo> yeh max
[07:55] <cuzzo> thank you
[07:55] <cuzzo> i seen another site last nite
[07:55] <cuzzo> cheqap gaming pc
[07:55] <cuzzo> ill post it in a bit
[07:56] <cuzzo> cant belive its so cheap for gaming pc
[07:56] <maxdata> great
[07:56] <DigeratiX> i setup two 8 monitor systems here for two traders
[07:56] <cuzzo> just give me few min and ill post teh page im involved right now
[07:56] <DigeratiX> came in under what tradingcomputers would have
[07:56] <DigeratiX> but tradingcomputers seems like a good outfit
[07:56] <cuzzo> that is the key
[07:57] <cuzzo> are they good
[07:57] <maxdata> yes they have better prices than xview
[07:57] <cuzzo> and i heard they are
[07:57] <DigeratiX> yes reasonable and good support from what I heard from them
[07:57] <cuzzo> besides doesnt woodie sponser them so they have to be lol
[07:57] <DigeratiX> they have a 3/4 week build time though
[07:58] <cuzzo> i went to sams club yesterday
[07:58] <cuzzo> HP quad core with a 24 inch lcd for 875
[07:58] <cuzzo> man
[07:58] <cuzzo> that is cheap
[07:58] <cuzzo> on vista premium
[07:58] <eric> ym through fri colse, es, er2 holding
[07:58] <cuzzo> but i dont need all that garbage they put in so i want to have 1 built
[07:59] <cuzzo> so no one in here uses sierra?
[08:00] <Pappy> good deal for that ho cuzzo, where?
[08:00] <Pappy> hp
[08:00] <cuzzo> sams club
[08:00] <cuzzo> which is same as walmart
[08:00] <cuzzo> but the 24 inch moniter was a beauty
[08:00] <eric> an emachine gives good value and is expandable
[08:00] <cuzzo> wide screen
[08:01] <DigeratiX> yeah dad has emachine, no troubles
[08:01] <cuzzo> eric which one is expanadle
[08:01] <eric> emachine
[08:01] <cuzzo> oh emachine?
[08:01] <eric> am using one now as laptop and other desktop crashed beyond repair :(
[08:01] <cuzzo> question when you buy a pc at a store liek best buy circuit cirty whatever
[08:01] <cuzzo> are they expandable or not much?
[08:02] <eric> figure out what u want and price shop it online
[08:02] <eric> u can always buy it cheaper online
[08:02] <cuzzo> i guess your stuck with the motherboard but i guess you can just put in more memory and thats it?
[08:02] <eric> and possibly save the tx $
[08:02] <eric> tax
[08:02] <cuzzo> does anyone use quad core yet?
[08:02] <eric> pretty much
[08:02] <cuzzo> ok eric cool
[08:02] <eric> pretty much
[08:03] <cuzzo> or dual core is ok as well?
[08:03] <cuzzo> im afraid teh quad core will get too hot
[08:03] <cuzzo> but i dont know
[08:04] <Leek> anyone know how to add a daily price line on an ensign chart.. I don't see it in studies.. is that a dyo?
[08:04] <cuzzo> hey Leeker
[08:05] <cuzzo> you see where support is
[08:05] <cuzzo> on top
[08:05] <cuzzo> day levels is to teh left of that
[08:05] <cuzzo> sorry typo mistake
[08:05] <Leek> I want a custom daily price line
[08:06] <cuzzo> well you go there and make the custom thing and then save it
[08:06] <cuzzo> to whatever custom you desire
[08:06] <Leek> Like I want a $TICK chart and draw +400 and -400 on that chart.. permanent
[08:06] <Leek> ok. I follow you
[08:07] <cuzzo> ok so open a tick chart
[08:07] <Leek> ok.. will check it out
[08:07] <cuzzo> and then use range interval +1200 -1200
[08:07] <cuzzo> then add your lines at +400 -400
[08:08] <eric> 
[08:08] <Leek> you mean add those in daily price line
[08:08] <eric> YM .786 fib on VPC
[08:09] <eric> if u get to .786 though, resumption of trend is unlikely
[08:09] * Protrader bb later
[08:10] <enthios> yup
[08:10] <eric> YM real weak today
[08:10] <enthios> yes, everything weak
[08:10] <cuzzo> Leeker yes
[08:10] <cuzzo> remember what you showed me on friday
[08:11] <cuzzo> with teh daily lines
[08:11] <cuzzo> make another one and use teh top 2 for +400 and -400
[08:11] <cuzzo> and in description you put PRICE
[08:12] <cuzzo> and then save that to maybe tab 4 or whatever tab is free
[08:12] <smik8153> eric so you mean expect a continuation downard tren?
[08:12] <cuzzo> and that will be your TICK tab
[08:12] <smik8153> trend
[08:14] <eric> new appraisal rules would make it virtually impossible for high LTV homeowners to refi
[08:15] <Leek> cuzzo.. I got that setup on the daily price line.. now I also added $TRIN on subwindow 2.. how do I put daily price line to sub window 2
[08:15] <Leek> or can that be done.. because it defaults to chart
[08:15] <cuzzo> that i do not know
[08:16] <cuzzo> you cant use daily price lines for that i dont think
[08:16] <cuzzo> maybe with a dyo
[08:16] <cuzzo> sorry Leeekr i do wish i can help
[08:16] <Leek> np
[08:16] <cuzzo> maybe ensign support or soemone in here
[08:16] <cuzzo> but you got teh tick done now right?
[08:16] <Leek> I can always create separate chart for $trin
[08:16] <Leek> $tick is done..thanks
[08:16] <cuzzo> ok that is good
[08:18] <Leek> cuzzo.. I see a problem
[08:19] <Leek> on the $tick chart.. when I scroll the chart.. the whole daily price lines move .. but it should not move in the chart
[08:24] <enthios> back in a bit
[08:24] * enthios is now known as enthios_afk
[08:24] * Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Mar 03 08:24:41 2008
Session Start: Mon Mar 03 11:02:42 2008
Session Ident: #enthios
[11:02] * Now talking in #enthios
[11:02] * Topic is ' 0,2 8,10 ENTHIOS.COM Live Signals 0,2 1,0 Futures Trading. Free to Join. Our 9th Year. Featuring the Universal Method. '
[11:02] * Set by X on Mon Feb 25 07:19:36
[11:02] -X- Authorization Granted on channel #enthios
[11:03] <enthios> .
[11:05] <Zendo> ..
[11:05] <enthios> ...
[11:06] <enthios> looks like i didn't miss much
[11:06] <enthios> Zendo, what does your nickname mean?
[11:06] <Zendo> i don t know, but maly the wy of zen
[11:06] <Zendo> way
[11:06] <Zendo> maybe
[11:09] <enthios> lol
[11:09] <enthios> you don't know?!?
[11:09] <yiman> the way of zen
[11:11] <enthios> thanks, yiman
[11:11] <enthios> actually, i happen to know what it means because i speak japanese
[11:11] <enthios> but was curious about why Zendo chose it as a nickname :)
[11:12] <yiman> zen usualy means the way of the mind emphasis on mindful acceptance of the present moment
[11:12] <yiman> oh sorry
[11:12] <enthios> Our long trade still has not triggered and since prices have not traded through the 12190 VPC, the signal is still valid
[11:12] <Zendo> the way of zen for trading
[11:12] <Zendo> quiet mind
[11:12] <Zendo> conzentration
[11:13] <enthios> Actually, zen means many things. For example, it refers to experiential learning, rather than academic.
[11:13] <Zendo> maybe thats the reason i choose this name
[11:13] <enthios> cool
[11:13] <yiman> similar to indian dhyana
[11:13] <enthios> and Chinese chan
[11:14] <enthios> okay, back in a bit...
[11:14] * enthios is now known as enthios_afk
[13:33] * Disconnected
Session Close: Mon Mar 03 13:33:10 2008
Session Start: Mon Mar 03 13:34:46 2008
Session Ident: #enthios
[13:34] * Now talking in #enthios
[13:34] * Topic is ' 0,2 8,10 ENTHIOS.COM Live Signals 0,2 1,0 Futures Trading. Free to Join. Our 9th Year. Featuring the Universal Method. '
[13:34] * Set by X on Mon Feb 25 07:19:36
[13:34] -X- Authorization Granted on channel #enthios
[14:00] <enthios> Tomorrow's Natural Trading Ranges (NTR) for ES, ER2, and YM:
[14:00] <enthios> 10,10. 1,0 S&P : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/esblog.htm
[14:00] <enthios> 7,7. 1,0 ER2 : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/er2blog.htm
[14:00] <enthios> 13,13. 1,0 YM : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/ymblog.htm
[14:00] <enthios> 9,9. 1,0 NQ : http://www.enthios.com/blogs/nqblog.htm
[14:02] <enthios> 12 Note the market closed right on the POC, so there may be some early morning trades (any time after 8:30 Eastern) as the market comes back into equilibrium pre-market, then bounces back away....
[14:02] <enthios> see you tomorrow
Session Close: Tue Mar 04 05:51:13 2008 |
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