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发表于 2006-4-5 17:25 | 显示全部楼层
你到底是玩技术面还是玩基本面?

技术面可谈短期

基本面不要拿短线走势说事


提示一个价位:1950以上是短期敏感区域
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 楼主| 发表于 2006-4-5 17:46 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 零感 于 2006-4-5 17:25 发表
你到底是玩技术面还是玩基本面?

技术面可谈短期

基本面不要拿短线走势说事


提示一个价位:1950以上是短期敏感区域


不懂您的问题,可以完整一点吗?专家
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发表于 2006-4-5 18:49 | 显示全部楼层
目前,我可以说:

这个贴子里,常露脸的朋友,qinjiayu、yjg0133老哥,shine2008不算。

跟帖的朋友几乎没遇见理解600550的。我就是这么一句话。

主要是基本面,也包括一些技术面。

浮躁害死人。此帖为证。
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发表于 2006-4-5 18:51 | 显示全部楼层
补充一句:
看问题,得大胆假设,小心求证。
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发表于 2006-4-5 18:57 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 333sun333 于 2006-4-5 16:53 发表
top牛啊,真有新高了,不过你也够损的,在11.7还唱空,偶那时真是以身饲虎啊!怕怕!!


    你要真信了top,那真要喝西北风了!呵呵。
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发表于 2006-4-5 19:52 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 卡布里的月光 于 2006-4-5 18:49 发表
目前,我可以说:

这个贴子里,常露脸的朋友,qinjiayu、yjg0133老哥,shine2008不算。

跟帖的朋友几乎没遇见理解600550的。我就是这么一句话。

主要是基本面,也包括一些技术面。

浮躁害死人。此帖为 ...

哈哈,股票涨停,高手们再次纷纷出现!
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发表于 2006-4-5 19:54 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 qinjiayu 于 2006-4-5 13:55 发表


谢谢你的祝福。

另外,我今天早盘16.1又买了七分之一。

不客气,真心恭喜!
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发表于 2006-4-5 19:56 | 显示全部楼层


只要看这个贴子的,都会反省怎么回事

高手-我不是。
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发表于 2006-4-5 20:00 | 显示全部楼层
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卡布里的月光 + 2 2006-4-6 00:05 帖子很棒,加分鼓励 .

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发表于 2006-4-5 20:01 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 卡布里的月光 于 2006-4-5 19:56 发表


只要看这个贴子的,都会反省怎么回事

高手-我不是。

谁是谁不是重要吗?重要的是结果,你说对不?
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发表于 2006-4-5 20:31 | 显示全部楼层
*******
天量标志新炒股思路的开始:目前随着管理层对假洋鬼子――基金的治理和整合,以及股市坏小子―――
券商的打击和治理,市场正在被真洋鬼子―――QFII的炒做思维同化,就连本土的游资也无一不被洗脑!
从本次有色金属板块和地产板块的凶悍炒做风格就使得我们领略了国际正宗的炒股风格:
国际炒股大家思路和风格其实很简单。好股票就一个劲地买,一直买到体力透支业绩透支为止。
股票涨起来后,就不回头地反复涨。买了股票就拿着,轻轻松松就能赚个好几倍。对于消息的理解,
大家风范也很简单,跟本不像国内投资者那样复杂,什么利好出尽是利空、利空出尽是利好,玩着辩证法
玩来玩去把自己玩到晕头转向。其实,好就是好,坏就是坏,好消息就往上炒,坏消息就往下砸,
没那么多弯弯肠子。他们支持这种做法就是一个死理儿--基本面。
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>>剛看到晚間的相關評論,雖然見地不是那麼深刻,但也能說明些思路

>>既然0550 有QFII 的資金深入, 短期還是可以睇高一線


>>說到基本面可以多多關注美國(政府和普通百姓)對“另類”能源的態度
    美國是全球最大的商品市場,美國的一舉一動是影響巨大的
    前幾天就有一則新聞,加州的建築署在外包一個項目就是將公立小學的建築按標準全部配置太陽能系統
    供應能源,並以整個系統作為學生的“能源實驗室“
    (我們知道的在臺灣就有此類項目,尤其在南臺灣….. ),這些都是很積極的信號.
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发表于 2006-4-5 20:37 | 显示全部楼层
我也请教过台湾的老师
QFII的风格正如同TOP君说的那样.

老脑筋,早就洗拜拜了
接下来的就是大家的心智接受市场变化的洗礼
Are you ready?
GO!!!
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发表于 2006-4-5 21:35 | 显示全部楼层
欢迎yjg回来。愿闻高见。
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发表于 2006-4-5 21:44 | 显示全部楼层
去年看到你在新浪分析云记见仓的贴子,从此加入威米的队伍,在网上搜到这个论坛,受益非浅。谢谢yjg,shine2008,卡布(开心),top...
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发表于 2006-4-5 21:47 | 显示全部楼层
China energy: Here comes the sun

FROM THE ECONOMIST INTELLIGENCE UNIT

China’s solar-energy industry is poised for takeoff. Still, foreign investors who want to be part of the
action should protect themselves against getting burned

With triple-digit growth, record-breaking profits and seemingly insatiable market demand, China’s
solar-energy technology sector is sizzling hot. The country’s photovoltaic (PV) industry is on a trajectory
to produce up to US$10bn in revenue by 2010 and could become the world’s top producer of solar-
energy technology. However, investors who want to partake in the Chinese solar boom must not get
blinded. The industry may look golden right now, but it faces a host of challenges that could bring on
a darker future.

Record-high oil prices and growing urgency for non-greenhouse-gas-emitting energy have ignited
global demand for solar energy, particularly in Germany and Japan. In 2005 worldwide PV production
increased by 30% to 1.5 gw, with revenue growing from US$8.3bn to US$11.1bn and profits, from
US$1.2bn to US$2.3bn, according to Michael Rogol of CLSA, a Hong Kong-based investment bank.
Chinese PV firms, numbering more than 100, have been major beneficiaries of this development.
Their production capacity of PV cells—the plates that absorb the sun’s rays and convert it to
electricity—rose 373% to 250 mw in 2005 from 52.8 mw in 2004. Meanwhile, the production capacity
of modules—the panels comprised of the PV cells—grew 350% to 400 mw from 88.8 mw. Such growth
has elevated China to third place in the global PV production-capacity league, behind Germany and Japan.

Investors’ darling

Leading China’s charge is Suntech Power, which controls 40% of the Chinese PV-cell-and-module
production market. Based in Wuxi in Jiangsu province, the firm posted US$226m in revenue in 2005
and has become the darling of investors since its initial public offering (IPO) on the New York Stock
Exchange in December. “The potential for this market is unlimited,” says Shi Zhengrong,
Suntech Power’s CEO, who has become China’s richest man in just five years.

Business is looking up also at CEEG Nanjing PV-Tech Company, based in the eponymous city 150 km
west of Suntech Power’s hometown of Wuxi. “We can’t keep up with the demand even with our
production lines running 24 hours a day,” says Zhao Jianhua, the firm’s CEO. The company, which
launched production in June 2005 and makes only PV cells, is already turning a profit, according to
Mr Zhao. This year it plans to expand production capacity more than six times from 33 mw to 200 mw.

Chinese PV firms typically report profit margins averaging 20% and back-orders of up to two years.
As international and domestic demand is both increasing, the near-term future is expected to be even
brighter. The US state of California recently announced that over the next ten years it will pay rebates
of US$2.9bn to consumers for the purchase of solar panels. Meanwhile, China’s Law on Renewable
Energy, which requires the government to actively promote the use of solar, wind, hydro and other
alternative-energy technologies, went into effect on January 1st. According to the
National Development and Reform Commission, China hopes to install PV-electricity production capacity
of 400 mw by 2010 and 2.2 mw by 2020. Mr Rogol of CLSA, which played a part in Suntech Power’s
IPO, predicts that Chinese PV firms will collectively earn more than US$2bn in revenue this year and up
to US$10bn by 2010.

With such glowing prospects, foreign investors are bullish on the industry’s future and are rushing in to
be part of the action. For example, Warburg Pincus and the buyout arms of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan Chase are currently in talks to purchase a minority stake in
Tianwei Yingli New Energy Resources, China’s second largest PV producer.


However, some experts warn that the continued success of China’s PV industry is not guaranteed.
“I’m cautiously optimistic, but there are many unknown factors,” says Meng Xiangan of the Chinese
Solar Energy Society. For one, China lacks top-quality, indigenous expertise in PV technology. “The
quality of researchers in China is very poor,” says one executive. This dearth of local talent is due to
the fact that there are no national solar-energy research centres in China. Indeed, Mr Shi,
the billionaire CEO of Suntech Power, and Mr Zhao of CEEG Nanjing PV-Tech both earned their
doctorates in electrical engineering at the University of New South Wales in Australia. They say they
hire only foreign-educated Chinese scientists for their research teams.

While growing, Chinese PV demand also remains relatively small, with over 90% percent of the current
Chinese output destined for international markets. “There is not enough domestic demand,” says
Mr Meng. According to the Chinese Solar Energy Society, Chinese PV consumption in 2005 was only
70 mw and is growing at a modest 5 mw a year. To reach the government’s PV-production goal of
400 mw by 2010, China’s domestic PV demand must grow at least 40% a year—an uncertain
proposition.

Full of potential

The Chinese PV demand has yet to reach its full potential because the Law on Renewable Energy
remains a paper tiger. The government has yet to announce any specific price guarantees and subsidies
for solar-energy buyers as stipulated by the law. As a result, PV-generated electricity in China continues
to be six to ten times more expensive than highly polluting coal.

Meanwhile, the current dependency on exports not only forces Chinese firms to compete against rivals
in Germany, Japan and the US, but also exposes them to the risk that the renminbi will strengthen and
hurt their export sales. In fact, Chinese PV executives reported that the 2.1% revaluation of the

renminbi in 2005 caused a drop in PV-module exports.

Then there is the scarcity of silicon, the key material for producing the heat-absorbing PV wafers.
The exploding global demand for solar energy has led to extremely tight silicon supplies, with prices
tripling in the past few years to US$80 per kg. Although it is one of the world’s most abundant
resources, refining silicon is an extremely energy-intensive and complex process—the construction of
new production facilities require up to two years. Chinese PV manufacturers suffer more
than others because of the lack of high-quality domestic silicon suppliers. As a result, the Chinese must
rely on expensive imports, paying around US$200 per kg, or more than twice as much as what their
international competitors pay. This silicon premium on the Chinese PV firms not only off-sets their
lower production costs, (Chinese-made PV cells and modules are priced the same as or sometimes
higher than those made by their international competitors)
, but also cuts into their profits.
For example, rising silicon costs lowered Suntech Power’s fourth-quarter 2005 gross profit
margin to 26.5% compared with 29.8% in the third quarter and 34.1% a year earlier. This year the
company is bracing for another 10-15% increase in silicon prices.


China’s PV industry may also become a victim of its own success. The boom has attracted
dozens of new entrants into the market. These new players, particularly inefficient ones, will likely
exacerbate the already scarce silicon-supplies problem. Meanwhile, the lucrative export markets of Germany
and the US are expanding their own PV production capacity to meet demand, leading some experts to
predict the end of the current industry boom in 2007. If so, Chinese producers may soon be stuck
with excess capacity—unless of course demand within China increases
.

Optimists believe that is exactly what will happen. In a country as hungry for energy as China, demand
for solar power is bound to surge— eventually. Even silicon prices that Chinese producers pay will drop
significantly, as the expansion of domestic silicon-production facilities in Henan and Sichuan provinces
come online. Chinese PV players, who obviously do not question the assumption that domestic demand
will boom, are also trying to raise their competitiveness by increasing cell efficiency and producing
thinner wafers, which minimise silicon use. This is why CLSA’s Mr Rogol believes China has the potential
to produce 2 gw of cells and modules, accounting for 25-33% of global production by 2010.

Winners and losers

Sceptics, however, wonder whether Chinese firms could survive possible post-boom scenarios, such as
a reduction in international solar-energy subsidies and a drop in PV prices. “Everybody is now making
money because of the high prices,” says one venture capitalist whose firm is seeking to invest in the
Chinese PV industry. “But once silicon prices go down, so will the prices of the cells and modules around
the world. The crucial question is, who will survive once the profit margins shrink?”

It is a legitimate question. But as the market develops in any industry, there will inevitably be winners
and losers. There is no reason why Chinese firms with a solid research base, multiple silicon suppliers
and sufficient production capacity will not be able to ride out a market slump, not only to survive but
to emerge stronger as they mature. Says Mr Meng of the Chinese Solar Energy Society: “This industry
is still in its infancy.”

The Economist Intelligence Unit
march  28th  2006

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发表于 2006-4-5 21:52 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2006-4-5 21:54 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 the_top 于 2006-4-5 20:31 发表
*******
天量标志新炒股思路的开始:目前随着管理层对假洋鬼子――基金的治理和整合,以及股市坏小子―――
券商的打击和治理,市场正在被真洋鬼子―――QFII的炒做思维同化,就连本土的游资也无一不被洗脑!
...

信!
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原帖由 the_top 于 2006-4-5 20:31 发表
*******
天量标志新炒股思路的开始:目前随着管理层对假洋鬼子――基金的治理和整合,以及股市坏小子―――
券商的打击和治理,市场正在被真洋鬼子―――QFII的炒做思维同化,就连本土的游资也无一不被洗脑!
...




现在可要好好跟着几位老师学习学习了,
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发表于 2006-4-5 22:10 | 显示全部楼层
人民幣匯率今天收報 1 USD = 8.007 RMB
月內必破8心理位
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发表于 2006-4-5 22:41 | 显示全部楼层
vivian's  confession :

As for Suntech Power Holdings which I hold,  which I dropped, the outlook is mixed.
Suntech is involved in the planned floatation later this year of a second Chinese solar
company, this one a power generato
.

The full details of how the future initial public offering on the New York Stock Exchange will be structured,
and what the price will be, are unknown.

But the assumption that Suntech will be hurt if one of its customers goes public is just silly

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