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发表于 2010-5-15 19:17 | 显示全部楼层
当校院里都要安装监控探头, 当幼儿园都要布钢.....真的深感杯具...#*1#
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-15 19:45 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 野生动物 于 2010-5-14 15:44 发表
都该博士后毕业的岁数了,去学本科数学,不知道哪个大学收我这样的学生#*27*#

直接找校领导或系主任或教授去谈判一下?
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发表于 2010-5-15 20:34 | 显示全部楼层
下周5月合约就要到期结算....不知道会发生什么, 不过我猜想是不是老手会早一两天离开? #*31*#
没必要等到最后的一刻呀? 早点结算不是安全更高些吗?#*31*#
请教和上, 野生动物: 现在假设从4.16 一开始就做一空单, 一直持有到现在,(当然条件是有足够的保证金) 那么
他是不是一个大赢家? 如果到了5.21日最后的交割日没有足够的对手盘, 那么他是不是只能转到下个合约去?#*31*#
都说到21日股票市场很可能会大幅波动, 不明白为什么? #*31*#


等和上周图.#*)*# #*)*# #*)*#
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发表于 2010-5-15 21:00 | 显示全部楼层
从北大等学校要各中学校长推荐特长生直接收好学生这点来看, 直接去找相关校长或系主任毛遂自荐很
可能是一条走的通的路. #*22*# 我猜 "关键"没准是你究竟找的是哪个系的头. #*18*#
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发表于 2010-5-15 21:11 | 显示全部楼层
送美女..送美元..............想去就去乐
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发表于 2010-5-15 21:21 | 显示全部楼层
[quote]原帖由 苏北人 于 2010-5-15 21:11 发表
送美女..送美元..............想去就去乐 [/quote


也是, 有些时候理想和现实总是相差太远...#*1#

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发表于 2010-5-15 21:25 | 显示全部楼层
唔,找一下旁听个。有个气氛在总比自己闷看好。那些数学系的符号,闷看确实不懂。
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发表于 2010-5-15 21:28 | 显示全部楼层
另外,喏,这个...这次我把它截下来了

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-15 21:29 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 野生动物 于 2010-5-15 21:25 发表
那些数学系的符号,闷看确实不懂。

听说搞数学的人也常常不懂那些符号是什么意思。#*29*#
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发表于 2010-5-15 21:32 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 野狐禅 于 2010-5-15 21:29 发表

听说搞数学的人也常常不懂那些符号是什么意思。#*29*#


哈哈#*29*# #*29*#

另外,我那个截图没有显示吗?就在现在,我的杀软正在报警得欢...
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-15 21:38 | 显示全部楼层
5/14/2010: 据说都是股指期货惹的祸。#*29*#
Day Price Change
0 91.69 -0.82%
1 92.45 2.15%
2 90.50 -0.26%
3 90.74 -1.98%
4 92.58 0.13%
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发表于 2010-5-15 21:46 | 显示全部楼层
"据说"---据谁说? #*31*#  #*31*#
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发表于 2010-5-15 21:53 | 显示全部楼层
我真的认为这种股指期货的推出对于小三民来说只有被杀戮的份没有招价之力.
这种对小三民的所谓保护和华人与....不准....是一模一样的, 本质上没什么不同.
我不认为"股指期货"不好, 但目前这种我不知道到底是哪里出了问题, 但对小三
民来说真的是非常的残酷的. 我感到的是当市场大跌时,没有50的被压在市场最
底层的小股民就几乎没有生存的空间.
这样的市场没有公平可言.....

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-15 21:58 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 liza012 于 2010-5-15 21:53 发表
目前这种我不知道到底是哪里出了问题, 但对小三民来说真的是非常的残酷的. 我感到的是当市场大跌时, 几乎没有生存的空间.

但你这样说,还是把市场的下跌归结于股指期货了。
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发表于 2010-5-15 22:23 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 野狐禅 于 2010-5-15 21:58 发表

但你这样说,还是把市场的下跌归结于股指期货了。


是的, 我认为这次这样大的幅度的猛烈的下跌, 就是这样的股指期货推出的时点, 点位, 具体的规则等等....
密切相关的. 如果假设没有推出, 我真的相信市场不可能有这么大的跌幅. 我是根据我自己的体会, 自己
的观察, 自己的思考得的这个结论, 但我是外行, 也可能我是错的, 但事实摆在这里, 要有人指明我的错...
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发表于 2010-5-15 22:33 | 显示全部楼层
不用去找原因,市场就是这样的。不过DJI上次那个意外,5分钟挫10%50块瞬间到0.09倒是要找找原因,因为这样会谁都没法玩了#*29*#
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发表于 2010-5-15 22:34 | 显示全部楼层
你看看吧: 从第1天开始, 我就不相信有什么傻子不下空单! 一上来就是猛烈的空单, 一路往下杀,
这个力量是他们杠杆的叠加,......很快,没几天交易量就超过了上海市场.....什么速度!没有股指期货
杀跌的力量做的到吗???? 再说, 大的机构进不去....那边没有暴仓的,也说明了那边做空赢了利的容易
程度. 这边只能被动挨打, 除非空仓.....每天的交易都在那里, 对老手来说一天挣死了, 哪个市场有
这等好事?#*31*# 和到了银行抢没什么两样!#*29*#
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发表于 2010-5-15 22:47 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 野生动物 于 2010-5-15 22:33 发表
不用去找原因,市场就是这样的。不过DJI上次那个意外,5分钟挫10%50块瞬间到0.09倒是要找找原因,因为这样会谁都没法玩了#*29*#


对于大于50的人来说能两边做, 所以不用找原因. 但对于只能做一边的小股民来说就必须认真
考虑还能不能继续在这样的市场里生存. 我不认为市场就是这样, 游戏规则是人定的, 有漏洞的
地方就应该补, 改改规则就是了, 我认为制定规则的设计者来说, 我认为他们根本就没有考虑
小散民的处境, 也根本就没有把他们放在眼里. 目前这样, 就是一个把小三民斩尽沙绝的制度.
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发表于 2010-5-15 22:49 | 显示全部楼层
发重了. 我删掉一个.

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-16 03:36 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 野生动物 于 2010-5-15 22:33 发表
不用去找原因,市场就是这样的。不过DJI上次那个意外,5分钟挫10%50块瞬间到0.09倒是要找找原因,因为这样会谁都没法玩了#*29*#


By Herbert Lash and Jonathan Spicer

updated 1:28 p.m. CT, Fri., May  14, 2010



NEW YORK - A big mystery seller of futures contracts during the market meltdown last week was not a hedge fund or a high frequency trader as many have suspected, but money manager Waddell & Reed Financial Inc, according to a document obtained by Reuters.



Waddell sold on May 6 a large order of e-mini contracts during a 20-minute span in which U.S. equities markets plunged, briefly wiping out nearly $1 trillion in market capital, the internal document from Chicago Mercantile Exchange parent CME Group Inc said.



Regulators and exchange officials quickly focused on Waddell's sale of 75,000 e-mini contracts, which the document said "superficially appeared to be anomalous activity."


Gary Gensler, chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission, said in congressional testimony Tuesday that it had found one sale was responsible for about 9 percent of the volume in e-minis during the sell-off in the U.S. markets.


The e-minis are one of the most liquid futures contracts in the world, providing holders exposure to the benchmark Standard & Poor's 500 Index. The contracts can act as a directional indicator for the underlying stock index.



No suggestion of wrongdoing
Gensler said there was no suggestion that the trader, whom he did not identify, did anything wrong in only entering orders to sell. Gensler said data show that the trades appeared to be part of a bona fide hedging strategy.



It's unclear what impact the trading in the e-minis had on stock prices during the plunge, but regulators have scrutinized futures trading because the sharp decline in that market preceded the dive in the broader U.S. equities market.



The CME document shows that during the sell-off and subsequent rally, other active traders in e-minis included Jump Trading, Goldman Sachs Group Inc , Interactive Brokers Group Inc , JPMorgan Chase & Co and Citadel Group.



During the 20-minute period, 842,514 contracts in e-minis were traded while Waddell from 2 p.m. EDT (1800 GMT) to 3 p.m. traded its contracts, CME said. The CME document did not provide a break-out of Waddell's trading during the crucial 20 minutes.


Overland Park, Kansas-based Waddell declined to return calls seeking comment. But in a statement, the company said: "Like many market participants, Waddell & Reed was affected negatively by the market activity of May 6."



Waddell said in its statement that it often uses futures trading to "protect fund investors from downside risk," and on May 6 it executed several trading strategies including the use of index futures contracts as part of the normal operations of its flexible portfolio funds. The company advises and distributes the Ivy Funds, a family of mutual funds.



Waddell said it believes it was "among more than 250 firms" that traded e-minis during the market sell-off.


Waddell's shares were down almost 6 percent to $32.07 in afternoon trading.



The CFTC declined to comment.



A CME spokesman, who declined to comment on the document, said the Chicago-based futures exchange operator never discusses customer activity.


"We found no evidence of improper trading activity or erroneous trades by CME Globex customers," said CME spokesman Allan Schoenberg.



Trading in e-minis takes place entirely on the CME's Globex exchange. Hedge funds and high-speed trading firms often use the e-mini in an arbitrage strategy that seeks to capture the change in prices between the futures contract and the S&P 500.



Waddell's contracts were executed at Barclays Plc's Barclays Capital and later given up to Morgan Stanley, according to the document.


CME said it spoke to representatives from both banks on May 6 and planned to speak to Waddell representatives the following day. The firm oversaw $74.2 billion in assets as of March 31.



Morgan Stanley told CME that it did not have concerns regarding Waddell's activity because it "would typically use equity index futures to hedge macro market risk associated with the substantial long exposure of its clients," the document said.



Gensler said the contracts were sold between 2:32 p.m. and 2:51 p.m., the height of the meltdown.



The market for e-minis on May 6 fell more than 5 percent in a little more than 5 minutes starting at 2:40 p.m. -- the height of the crash, the document said. The e-minis began to recover before stock prices turned higher.

An order the size of the Waddell contract would be a big trade to execute on a normal day, said a trader whose firm is active in the S&P 500 futures market. About 50,000 contracts are typically traded in an hour, the trader said.



"To get rid of 75,000 contracts, that's a lot of trading even if the market is healthy," the trader said. "But when suddenly the market changes and there's not as many bids there to trade with, 75,000 is going to cause quite a shock to the market.



"That's an enormous position for anybody, whether it's a hedge or whether it's a trade. It's a big position, no doubt about it," the trader said.
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