-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-24 18:24

sukert 发表于 2015-8-24 17:53 static/image/common/back.gif
我觉得很多情况是奔走3-3-5之后的5走出太多导致市场情绪看多而无法回收的一个客观现象。后面可能接一个c5楔 ...

很欢迎这样的谈论,在大级别上的趋势上,波浪理论还是很有效的,常常可以保证不会出性质本质上的错误,可以把趋势做足,这种不规范的嵌套浪应该只出现在小级别上,最多是中级行情。当然这只是本人的理解。

mmx1 发表于 2015-8-24 18:34

极端情况下,纪律远胜于技术分析。小散的口袋,真的是喂了狗了,资本的嗜血远胜我们的想象。

sukert 发表于 2015-8-25 08:44

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-24 18:24 static/image/common/back.gif
很欢迎这样的谈论,在大级别上的趋势上,波浪理论还是很有效的,常常可以保证不会出性质本质上的错误,可 ...

那么你对于2、4浪的“失调”现象有什么看法。
我认为2、4浪是对其前面那一浪的调整,正常市场中,相应的涨幅对应相应的调整,快速市场中则可能打破这种平衡,2取决于1,4取决于3,两者之间本身除了交替并没有必然联系。

浪客禅心 发表于 2015-8-25 16:58

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-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-23 13:47 static/image/common/back.gif


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浪客禅心 发表于 2015-8-26 09:52

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1664起来不是啥嵌套浪啊,不是推动结构,联合调整浪而已

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 10:50

浪客禅心 发表于 2015-8-26 09:52 static/image/common/back.gif
1664起来不是啥嵌套浪啊,不是推动结构,联合调整浪而已

正统的零点不在1664。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 10:56

浪客禅心 发表于 2015-8-26 09:52 static/image/common/back.gif
1664起来不是啥嵌套浪啊,不是推动结构,联合调整浪而已


-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:01

浪客禅心 发表于 2015-8-26 09:52 static/image/common/back.gif
1664起来不是啥嵌套浪啊,不是推动结构,联合调整浪而已


本人喜欢比尔威廉姆的思维数浪,比较接近实战。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:08

即根据浪性本质常识数浪。不太强调细节,因为这样常常不会犯大方向错误,

理性与启示 发表于 2015-8-26 11:17

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:01 static/image/common/back.gif
本人喜欢比尔威廉姆的思维数浪,比较接近实战。

照OSC看大盘目前现在是5分钟的背离.15分钟还没看到.到日线背离还有20天不止

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:19

sukert 发表于 2015-8-25 08:44 static/image/common/back.gif
那么你对于2、4浪的“失调”现象有什么看法。
我认为2、4浪是对其前面那一浪的调整,正常市场中,相应的 ...

我用循环和子循环两个概念来运用波浪理论。即至少两个级别看浪,子循环细节可以杂乱无章,循环有规矩。八浪循环中有4个子循环,显然每个子有自己的特点,即起步子循环、主升子循环,转向子循环、赶底子循环。

失调意味着方向发生了本质变化。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:28

简单的说失调至少要产生一个同级的调整,同时也表示那个级别的上涨已经终结。次级性质的调整一般不会失调。因为同级行情没有完,把人气打没有了,那不是主力主动找死!

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:35

我们的真正目的是为了正确解读市场成功获利,并不是追求各种细节,这就是理论家和实战家的区别。而比尔威廉姆是真正的交易高手,所以他的波浪理论更接近实战,虽然在理论家眼中可能是山寨版。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:47

我倒是比较欣赏那个从花街来的SI的有句话,波浪理论可以没有规矩,仅仅只是一个重新计数点的诞生(零点)。即波浪理论存在一个看盘过渡区,而过渡区常常是浪不清的。当然他原话不是这样说的,本质意思应该是这样。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 11:53

记住今天只是飙一飙,并没有发生转向。

浪客禅心 发表于 2015-8-26 12:17

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你看下这段的时空结构图就会更清晰点。时间50回撤,空间0.618回撤,正好打到角度线上,完美的时空势共振。
说明这段3波b是对前面5波a的完美回撤。当然如果你非要说1664不是正统底的话,那就是你下面那样数了。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 14:58

今天飙一飙,只是试探跌破3000点有效性,不具体说,应该有人看不懂。股市的运行其实都是行为分析。没有人指点,一般都是木的。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 15:07

波浪理论是市场行为标准,这点确实没有说错。问题是我们实际运用的时候,常常却不是这样,而是纠缠在所谓理论上的波动上,忘记对应的行为。其实学波浪理论只要你宁能够常常一眼望穿顶底的到来,你已经是波浪理论顶尖高手。而不是所谓预测准确。

任何人其实都是今天不知明天事,就是有人常常预测准确,其实都是合理蒙的。只有看到的才是真的。

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 16:32


其实本轮下跌就是33锯齿启动!

-浪-浪- 发表于 2015-8-26 16:38

即什么时候你能把波浪理论当成一种行为分析,那才叫波浪理论学到家了。
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